Desire Truth…….If you are going to insist that it is referring to Israel as a “righteous Servant of God” in the ‘Song” then it is also incumbent upon you to tell us,  in what way “Israel was a, “Righteous Servant” , Right?   If you can’t prove that, then your whole argument fails apart right?
Another thing to remember is Jesus himself was an Is…[Read more]

@Gene,
@Berean,

We can go off on another tangent with Isa 49:1-6 (the second Servant Song); however, we still haven’t finished with who is speaking in Isa 52:13-53:12. It’s as if everyone keeps dodging the question; let’s focus like a laser beam on this ONE topic so we can move on.

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

WILLIAM J. MURRAY THE ATHEIST “ROYALTY” MEMBER WHO FOUND JESUS, PART 1

During the 1960s and 1970s, a woman named Madalyn Murray O’Hair was something of a celebrity in the United States, appearing on television talk shows and popping up in newspaper articles on a regular basis.

O’Hair wasn’t a movie sta…[Read more]

@desiretruth

You: What an exemplary display of “Christ like” love!

Me: Is this a joke? You are the one who denies Jesus Christ!

May God grant you repentance.

Desire Truth……Again Berean has brought out scriptures that back the point of who the servant of God really was,  it was the one that would “restore Israel” ,  not Israel itself.  Right.  so with that in view the prophesy in Isa 53,  could not be referring to the nation of Israel it self. The nation of Israel never did any of those things mentione…[Read more]

@danny,

What an exemplary display of “Christ like” love!

Remember, you have choice to participate in the conversation or ignore it; I can’t make that decision for you.

Have a great day!

@desiretruth

Go away, Satan!

@Desire Truth

You

Also, who is the “servant” spoken of starting in chapter 41? If you are unsure, please reread post #944007.

Me

Undoubtedly it is Jacob that is in question… in post #944007. BUT JACOB IS NOT THE ONLY ONE TO BE CALLED MY SERVANT….

THERE IS ONE WHO IS ABOVE ALL SERVANTS, AND THIS WE SEE HIM MENTIONED IN ISAIAH 49

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@Berean

You don’t read the end of the book, you start at the beginning, and to understand this “ending” one must understand the “beginning.” All must be put into context. Who is speaking where in this “song”? Once we have this established we will move on.

Also, who is the “servant” spoken of starting in chapter 41? If you are unsure, please…[Read more]

@ desire Truth

He shall see of the labor of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;👉 for he shall bear their iniquities.👈.

Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;

👉because he hath poured out his soul unto death:👈 and he was…[Read more]

@Gene

@Berean

You aren’t listening to my words; nowhere have I implied Israel died for anyone’s sins. Go back to some previous posts and re-read. You and Berean are trying to merge two separate ideas – what I am reading in this passage and what you believe the passages states.

You still haven’t told me who you believe is speaking in the follo…[Read more]

In 2018, Mariusz Koper (of Poland) & crew sailed a yacht (the “Katharsis 2”) to circumnavigate around Antarctica in 72 days (from January into March) –requiring a distance of about 21,600 nautical miles, as they sailed in an EASTERLY direction, always tending to the RIGHT to get around Antarctica. ——- HOWEVER, IF there were an “ice wall”…

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Desire Truth…….I agree with Berean,  on this one,  you do need to show us in what “WAY”  has Israel died or suffered for “OUR” INIQUITIES and SINS, then, seeing you insist the nation of Israel was the one being addressed in chapter 53, right?   You haven’t produced a single scripture that supports Israel “bearing anyone’s sins and iniquities,…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

DIDN’T JESUS ASSURE THE THIEF ON THE CROSS THAT HE WOULD BE WITH HIM IN PARADISE THAT VERY DAY?

Some believe from this verse that people go to their reward immediately after death, a teaching that goes contrary to many other Bible texts. There are two main problems with this assumption. First, even t…[Read more]

@ desire Truth

He shall see of the labor of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;👉 for he shall bear their iniquities.👈.

Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;

👉because he hath poured out his soul unto death:👈 and he was numbered…[Read more]