What did the Tetrad of 2015 point to?

Now that the tetrad of 2014-15 has passed, can we see what if anything God was highlighting?

The Bible states in Genesis that God uses the sun, moon, and stars for signs and seasons. The word ‘seasons’ is also translated as ‘festivals’ elsewhere in scripture so that equates to the Jewish Feasts which are marked in the Jewish calendar. This calendar is based around moon cycles unlike our Gregorian calendar which is based on the sun. The Passover for example, is always marked by a Full Moon and a lunar eclipse coincides with a Full Moon by definition. So what is a tetrad? It refers to four things in a group, so in the case of a full moon, the word is used to describe four successive total lunar eclipses, with no partial lunar eclipses in between.

Since the first century, there have been 62 tetrads with only eight coinciding with both Jewish feasts making them significant in a biblical sense. So why is this significant? Well as already mentioned, God gave the moon as a sign to mark festivals and when we look at the last four tetrads, what we find are periods of time that were very significant in Jewish history. Here are the last four tetrads. Take a look at the dates. Some might not mean anything to you immediately. Let’s take a look at each of these years to see what happened in Jewish history on these dates. What you will find are the most significant events in modern Jewish history. Here are the years of the last four tetrads:

  • Tetrad of 1493-1494
  • Tetrad of 1949-1950
  • Tetrad of 1967-1968
  • Tetrad of 2014 – 2015

So were these years significant for Israel, the Jews, or Bible prophecy in general? At first glance the year 1967 certainly stands out to most students of prophecy, but what happened in and around all the last four significant tetrads?

1493- 1494

The Spanish Inquisition was a significant event for the Jews that took place in 1492 just one year prior. That year, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain gave the Jewish population a mere four months to convert to Catholicism or leave the country. It is estimated that between 165,000 and 400,000 Jews fled the country at this time. As many as 50,000 decided to stay, converting to Roman Catholicism.

Many historians now believe that Christopher Columbus was Jewish and they believe his voyage to the west in 1492 was his way of escaping the Spanish Inquisition of that year which of course resulted in his discovery of America. Some studies of Columbus show he was a deeply religious man whose purpose was to sail to Asia to obtain gold in order to finance a crusade to take back Jerusalem and rebuild the Jews’ holy temple. Whether true or not, his voyage was not as is commonly believed, funded by Queen Isabella, but rather by two Jews who converted to Catholicism to avoid death. Louis de Santangel and Gabriel Sanchez advanced an interest free loan of 17,000 ducats from their own pockets to help pay for the voyage. Another prominent Jew, Don Isaac Abrabanel, who was a rabbi and Jewish statesman, also donated money for the voyages of Christopher Columbus.

Just a couple of months before 1493, Columbus discovered America and in 1493 there was a tetrad perhaps signifying how important these events would be  for the Jews. As we know, Jews migrated to America to escape persecution resulting in the United States having the largest Jewish population on earth today with more Jewish people than even Israel. Certainly this was a significant time in Jewish history.

1949-1950

After the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD, Jews were driven into exile. The Jewish people were scattered through the nations of the world but still managed to retained their identity. After the WWII holocaust, the Jews were finally granted their homeland. On May 14, 1948, the modern state of Israel was born. In 1949,  Israel was officially recognized as a legal state by the United States with Israel becoming a member of the United Nations in 1949 after the Israeli elections.

1967

God said many times in the Old Testament that He would place His name in Jerusalem. The Jews during their 2,000 years of exile turned their faces toward Jerusalem each day praying for the restoration of their beloved ancient city and the rebuilding of the temple. On June 7, 1967 the Jordanians launched an attack against Israel and west Jerusalem. Israel counter-attacked driving Jordan out of east Jerusalem, out of Judea-Samaria, and back into its own land across the Jordan River. Jerusalem was undivided and under Jewish control for the first time since the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD.

2014 – 2015

Islamic Caliphate

Looking back at what happened in 2014 and 2015 it seemed the most obvious event relating to Bible prophecy, Israel, and the Jews was probably the rise of ISIS. The leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed an Islamic caliphate from the Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul in mid-2014. In 2015 the caliphate seemed unstoppable, but met some serious resistance with US air strikes. Despite that, ISIS maintained their ground. However, by 2016, ISIS was losing territory it had gained and in 2019 they were driven out of the last remaining pockets of land they held.

So was this significant to Israel or the Jews? Well it did seem at the time that ISIS could eventually attack Israel, but their defeat put a stop to that plan. This however led to a different problem that does relate to the Jews, namely the European migrant crisis. In 2015, millions of Muslims fled to Europe to escape ISIS and in the confusion many Muslims from Africa also took advantage of the opportunity to go to Europe for better economic opportunities. This wave of Muslims and the Islamic culture they brought with them led to increased persecution of Jews in Europe prompting many to live in Israel. But the impact for Jews could be much greater in the future due to the increase in percentage of Muslim Europeans due to immigration and a higher birth rate. In years or decades to come, parts of Europe could have a Muslim majority population leading to a more Islamic Europe than a Christian Europe that we know of today. Could this be the catalyst for what we read about the last days regarding the persecution of both Christians and Jews including death and even beheadings as we read in scripture? Well if ISIS was a catalyst, then yes a resurrection of an Islamic Caliphate in both the Middle East and parts of Europe could indeed bring some serious persecution of Jews and Christians.

Jerusalem

But there was an even more significant event during this tetrad? Yes there was. That event was the presidential campaign of Donald Trump which was launched on June 16, 2015, the same year as the tetrad. The following year in November 8, 2016, Trump became the President. On December 6, 2017, he announced the United States recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and ordered the relocation of the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The US embassy was officially opened in Jerusalem on May 14, 2018 which coincided with the 70th anniversary of the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

In hindsight, if God was using this tetrad to show us a significant sign, then it was probably the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and its endorsement by the United States. It does follow the pattern of the other tetrads in question which relate to Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews. However, Islamic immigration to Europe could also be a significant end time factor that could have a profound impact on both the Jews and Christians in the future.

Of course it has to be said that Trump is still the president and this King Cyrus type leader could enact many other major changes that will affect Israel and the Jewish people. Remember that during his administration he also defeated ISIS in Syria and Iraq and he is also making great changes to the relationship that the US has with China, which could in itself change things globally. It is also looking likely that he will win another term.

NOTE: The comments below are a topic that was started back in 2013. The speculation was what the tetrad would bring. It is now the year 2019 and with the benefit of hindsight, the above writing was written.


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  • #349884
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Four Blood Moons

    Will 2014-2015 be a significant period of time in God’s calendar? The last time there were four blood moons was apparently the six day war and the previous time, Israel had just become a nation.

    I thought I would add in three videos to provoke thought on this subject.

    For more up and coming astronomical signs in 2014 – 2015, see this video:
    Astronomical signs for 2014 +

    2018 update

    Huge changes took place in the last tetrad. We saw the rise of Islamic immigration to Europe and the election of Donald Trump and polarization of the Left and Right. Both these events are huge and will play a big role in the End Times. But we know that previous tetrads had huge impacts on Israel, so how did the recent tetrad affect the land of the Jews? Well for one thing, the rise of Islam in Europe is leading to the Jews of Europe leaving and returning to their homeland Israel.  Now learn about the next tetrad.

    #349892
    Wakeup
    Participant

    My comment to the video.

    My people have been destroyed, bacause of lack of knowledge.(Gos words).

    That man said that israel today; will never be removed.
    Contradictory to the scriptures.

    Jer 25:29. For, lo, *I begin* to bring evil on the city which is called by my name. And should you be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: For I will call for a *sword* upon ALL the inhabitance of the earth,said the Lord of host.(BEGINNING WITH ISRAEL).

    He failed to see that 1948 was just the **first gathering**.
    For there is a **second gathering**,when the jews of all generations will be brought back according to choice,at the second coming. To make up his kingdom in israel,and jerusalem will be the holy city,and they will live in peace with no sorrows, and no pain, and no tears;and the lion will eat straw.

    The resurrection only comes *after* the great tribulation,at the coming;*not anytime now*.
    Matt.24:29.Immediately after the tribulation of those days
    shall the sun be darkened—–.

    Verse 30. **AND THEN** SHALL APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN——

    He is a false prophet;putting his sheep asleep;thinking they will be taken up anytime now.That is causing great complacency.

    The time is soon, that all christians must make a decision,
    to accept the mark of the beast or not too.
    To accept the mark, means obedience, and submitting to the false prophet;the son of perdition.Great persecutions
    will come.

    The flock is deceived because they failed to seek for themselves.

    wakeup.

    #349896
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 05 2013,16:41)

    Blood moon dates.
    1492,
    1948,
    1967,
    April 2014 – September 2015.


    Good video T8!

    The “FOUR” blood red moons is certainly a sign.
    But there will be no 'rapture' – that's a misconception
    based on a misunderstanding of 2Thesselonians 4:16-17.

    Your brother    
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349909
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I only post the video to state that if this is true, then each time this has happened has been significant. What happens in the next one could be Ezekiel's war regarding Israel, the Tribulation, another war, a great persecution, or anything else that is significant. I don't know what that would be indeed if anything significant will happen.

    But if he is right, then there is a pattern and that pattern is about to repeat itself around a years time from now which is not much time at all.

    #349910
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2013,01:16)
    That man said that israel today; will never be removed.
    Contradictory to the scriptures.


    I think he was referring to the rebirth of Israel onward.

    I don't know what scripture says specifically, but suffice to say, that Israel is a country during the tribulation and it is the place of Armageddon and where Christ returns. Then we are told that the city from Heaven will descend there (I think).

    Are you saying there is an event between 1948 and the end where Israel is removed?

    #349914
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 06 2013,01:47)
    I only post the video to state that if this is true, then each time this has happened has been significant. What happens in the next one could be Ezekiel's war regarding Israel, the Tribulation, another war, a great persecution, or anything else that is significant. I don't know what that would be indeed if anything significant will happen.

    But if he is right, then there is a pattern and that pattern is about to repeat itself around a years time from now which is not much time at all.


    Hi T8,

    Yes, I knew that was the point you were making by posting the video.
    We will just have to wait to see exactly what they are in reference to.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349931
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    :)

    #349943
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 06 2013,01:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2013,01:16)
    That man said that israel today; will never be removed.
    Contradictory to the scriptures.


    I think he was referring to the rebirth of Israel onward.

    I don't know what scripture says specifically, but suffice to say, that Israel is a country during the tribulation and it is the place of Armageddon and where Christ returns. Then we are told that the city from Heaven will descend there (I think).

    Are you saying there is an event between 1948 and the end where Israel is removed?


    T 8.

    It is good that you ask questions regarding the prophesies.
    Israel today is not a spiritual nation,but a nation of force and power.(israel today is anti Christ).

    Isreal today is serving the king of babylon(satan),his boy is not yet revealed.
    And she(israel) is, and will serve babylon for 70 years.

    Then she(israel) will be visited by Gods wrath,and all the earth also, beginning with israel.
    But before this happens,the 7trumpets must sound first.
    Because at the first trump; the mark of the beast will be here already.
    Which is not yet.(rev.16:2).

    The mark will be forced upon all all people by the false
    prophet, when he comes, and takes over control.

    **The trumpets are also the vials**.
    **Everytime the trumpet sounds;one vial is poured out**.

    1.False prophet must show himself.(son of perdition).
    2.He takes control.(he'll be seen as God).
    3.The mark made compulsory.
    4. First trumpet: (2,3,4,5 trumpets are the horrible plagues on earth).

    5. The *sixth trumpet* is the punishment of israel,and then the world.This is a war of *man against man*.Israel will be attacked first,by the false prophet(king of the north);then the *Medes*(iran) and allies will stand up,because of the destruction of the dome. (3rd ww).

    6. The coming is at the last trump;last trumpet.
    This is armageddon;*man against God*. This is when the cities of the nations are no more. In one day.

    wakeup.

    #349948
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I suspect that the 'dome of the rock' will be coming down in the year 2023. I will explain the calculations.
    Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. 'dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in 688AD.

                           688 + 1260 = 1948

    And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
    that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)

                           688 + 1335 = 2023

    And here's how the year 2023 comes in…
    “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the
     thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” (Dan 12:12)

    Ed (witness)

    #349956
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2013,14:24)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I suspect that the 'dome of the rock' will be coming down in the year 2023. I will explain the calculations.
    Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. 'dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in 688AD.

                           688 + 1260 = 1948

    And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
    that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)

                           688 + 1335 = 2023

    And here's how the year 2023 comes in…
    “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the
     thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” (Dan 12:12)

    Ed (witness)


    EDJ.

    Brother Ed,the prophet that send himself.

    Let me refresh your doctrine.
    Revelation 12 has happened in the past;its fulfilled.

    The woman fled into the wilderness(world),and was fed for 3/half yrs. by Jesus.

    The woman is the remnant of the followers of Jesus,
    persecuted by the dragon(satan),and Paul was one of them,he was in charge.

    The dragon send a flood to overcome the woman,but God opened up the earth and swallowed up the flood.

    This is when Paul went to Damascus with his men to capture the remnant,when jesus confronted him; *Saul,Saul, why do you persecute me*. Now Paul changed his position, and is on the womans side.And his men were scattered.(God opened up the earth to swallow
    the flood).

    Your calculations are invalid. Give it up.

    wakeup.

    #349976
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote
    The “FOUR” blood red moons is certainly a sign.

    what is this as to do with an nation that ad rejected the son of God and still worship the God that they have betrayed in their ego stiff necks ,this is not counting their division within ,it seems to me that many will be deceived

    #349989
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2013,14:24)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I suspect that the 'dome of the rock' will be coming down in the year 2023. I will explain the calculations.
    Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. 'dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in 688AD.

                           688 + 1260 = 1948

    And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
    that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)

                           688 + 1335 = 2023

    And here's how the year 2023 comes in…
    “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the
     thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” (Dan 12:12)

    Ed (witness)


    Hi Wakeup,

    We can expect that the dome of the rock will come down by the 2023 date.
    Perhaps that's what the four blood red moons in 2014 and 2015 represent. Maybe it will
    be one of those years that the abomination of desolation religion is removed from the temple Mount?

    And maybe the Ezekiel temple will be built on the temple mount in 2023?
    We really won't know exactly how it's going down until it happens.
    As T8 points out (posting the video) it will probably be “BIG”!

    Ed (witness)

    #350408
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 07 2013,03:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2013,14:24)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I suspect that the 'dome of the rock' will be coming down in the year 2023. I will explain the calculations.
    Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. 'dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in 688AD.

                           688 + 1260 = 1948

    And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
    that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)

                           688 + 1335 = 2023

    And here's how the year 2023 comes in…
    “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the
     thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” (Dan 12:12)

    Ed (witness)


    Hi Wakeup,

    We can expect that the dome of the rock will come down by the 2023 date.
    Perhaps that's what the four blood red moons in 2014 and 2015 represent. Maybe it will
    be one of those years that the abomination of desolation religion is removed from the temple Mount?

    And maybe the Ezekiel temple will be built on the temple mount in 2023?
    We really won't know exactly how it's going down until it happens.
    As T8 points out (posting the video) it will probably be “BIG”!

    Ed (witness)


    EdJ.

    A lot of maybe's,is just guess work.
    We can know exactly what will happen by knowing the prophesies.
    Israel will serve the king of babylon for 70 yrs,and then she will be visited. The nations will also serve the king of babylon.

    I *BEGIN* to bring evil on the city that is called by my name.
    (jerusalem).
    For I will call for a sword upon the inhabitants of the EARTH. This will be the 3ww,STARTING WITH ISRAEL TAKEN.

    wakeup.

    #350416
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Most of the stuff you mention there already happened.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #350424
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2013,10:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Most of the stuff you mention there already happened.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Why do you keep on saying that its past?

    **LOOK; AND SEE;AND PERCEIVE**:

    Jeremiah 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.
    (REV11. THE HOLY CITY SHALL THEY TREAD UNDERFOOT FOR 42MONTHS;3/HALF YRS).ONLY.
    (A SWORD UPON **ALL** THE INHABITANCE OF THE EARTH).

    Jeremiah 25:30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, *****The LORD shall roar from on high*****, ***and utter his voice from his holy habitation***; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; ***he shall give a shout***, as they that ***tread the grapes***, against **ALL** the *inhabitants of the earth*.
    (THE LORD SHALL *ROAR FROM ON HIGH*).
    (*ALL* THE INHABITANCE OF THE EARTH).
    (HE SHALL GIVE A SHOUT;WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARC ANGEL).

    Jeremiah 25:31 A noise shall come even to the *ends of the earth*; for the LORD hath a **controversy with the nations**, **he will plead with *all* flesh**; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.
    (THE ENDS OF THE EARTH).
    (CONTROVERSY WITH THE *NATIONS*).
    (PLEAD WITH **ALL** FLESH).

    Jeremiah 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth **from nation to nation**, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from **the coasts of the earth**.
    (FROM NATION TO NATION).
    (A GREAT WHIRLWIND UP *FROM* THE COAST OF THE EARTH). (CYCLONES COMES FROM THE COAST).

    Jeremiah 25:33 **And the slain of the LORD** shall be **at that day** from **one end of the earth** even unto the **other end of the earth**: they shall **not be lamented**, **neither gathered, nor buried**; they **shall be dung upon the ground**.
    (THE SLAIN **OF THE LORD** ).
    (AT THAT DAY).
    (FROM ONE END OF THE EARTH TO THE OTHER END OF THE EARTH).
    (THEY SHALL NOT BE BURIED;BUT WILL BE DUNG ON THE GROUND).

    Jeremiah 25:34 *Howl*, ye *shepherds*, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.
    (THE FALSE SHEPHERDS WILL GET THEIR PORTION TOO).
    (FOR THEY HAVE CAUSED THE LAND TO BE DESOLATE).

    IF YOU STILL CAN NOT SEE; THAN THE SPIRITUAL CHAIN ON YOU IS TOO GREAT TO OVERCOME.

    wakeup.

    #350439
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,00:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,23:58)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I have explained things to you many times now. But because you are so fixated
    on your private interpretation of Prophecy you are not letting the information in.
    That is why I keep asking you to ask questions, thatta way you at least LISTEN.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Ok I am all ears; explain Jeremiah 25:32–38.
    Go.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
    and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war)

    33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
    they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)

    34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter
    and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel. (Israel is also affected by the war)

    35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.  (Their leaders are also affected by the war)

    36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard:
    for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.  (The Leaders complain to the LORD)

    37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.  (The destruction is far and wide)

    38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
    and because of his fierce anger.  (This is what is going to happen in the war against islam)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #350444
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EdJ.

    QUOTE:
    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
    and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war).UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    (NOT SO; WAR IS ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS A SWORD).
    WIND COMES FROM THE COASTS,AS MENTIONED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
    they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THEY WILL NOT BE GATHERED,BUT, BE AS DUNG UPON THE EARTH. NO NEED TO INTERPRET THIS ANY DIFFERENT.DUNG = FERTILISER.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter
    and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel. (Israel is also affected by the war)UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    ISRAEL IS NOT THE PRINCIPAL OF THE FLOCK;
    THEY ARE NOT THE SHEPHERDS OF THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
    BESIDES; GOD WILL *BEGIN* WITH ISRAEL.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape. (Their leaders are also affected by the war).UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    LEADERS ARE NOT CALLED SHEPHERDS.
    VERSE 36.—FOR THE LORD HATH SPOILED THEIR PASTURE. PASTURE AS OF SPIRITUAL FOOD OF THE SHEEP,THE LORD WILL SPOIL.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard:
    for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture. (The Leaders complain to the LORD)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THEIR PASTURE IS THE FLOCKS FOOD.
    SPIRITUAL FOOD.THERE IS A THIRST OF KNOWLEDGE.
    HOWL YE SHEPHERDS AND CRY. YE HYPOCRITES.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD. (The destruction is far and wide)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THE CHURCHES WHERE THEY FIND PEACE WILL BE CUT DOWN. NOT ETERNAL PEACE,BUT PEACE JUST FOR THAT MOMENT IN CHURCH.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
    and because of his fierce anger. (This is what is going to happen in the war against islam)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    GOD IS NOT SPEAKING ABOUT ISLAM;BUT THE CHRISTIAN SHEPHERDS.THEIR LAND IS DESOLATE,
    BECAUSE OF THE OPPRESSOR.
    ISLAM IS NOT IN THE FOLD.
    ——————————————————————

    wakeup.

    #350838
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,13:28)
    EdJ.

    QUOTE:
    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
    and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war).UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    (NOT SO; WAR IS ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS A SWORD).
    WIND COMES FROM THE COASTS,AS MENTIONED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
    they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THEY WILL NOT BE GATHERED,BUT, BE AS DUNG UPON THE EARTH. NO NEED TO INTERPRET THIS ANY DIFFERENT.DUNG = FERTILISER.
    ——————————————————————


    Hi Wakeup,

    YOU say verse 32 is not war, but verse 33 is?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #350886
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,09:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,13:28)
    EdJ.

    QUOTE:
    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
    and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war).UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    (NOT SO; WAR IS ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS A SWORD).
    WIND COMES FROM THE COASTS,AS MENTIONED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
    they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THEY WILL NOT BE GATHERED,BUT, BE AS DUNG UPON THE EARTH. NO NEED TO INTERPRET THIS ANY DIFFERENT.DUNG = FERTILISER.
    ——————————————————————


    Hi Wakeup,

    YOU say verse 32 is not war, but verse 33 is?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    The fact is the treading of the grapes.
    There will be whirlewinds and the sword.
    Therefore the dung on the ground.

    wakeup.

    #350889
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 16 2013,14:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,09:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,13:28)
    EdJ.

    QUOTE:
    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
    and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war).UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    (NOT SO; WAR IS ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS A SWORD).
    WIND COMES FROM THE COASTS,AS MENTIONED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
    they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THEY WILL NOT BE GATHERED,BUT, BE AS DUNG UPON THE EARTH. NO NEED TO INTERPRET THIS ANY DIFFERENT.DUNG = FERTILISER.
    ——————————————————————


    Hi Wakeup,

    YOU say verse 32 is not war, but verse 33 is?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    The fact is the treading of the grapes.
    There will be whirlewinds and the sword.
    Therefore the dung on the ground.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    It's nice to see you back-peddle!

    “For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind,
     to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.” (Isaiah 66:15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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