A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #826630
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hey Admin, the images are still following the next two or three posts also.  I have to keep detaching images that I used 3 posts prior.

    #826631
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Anthony:  …to try to belittle The Scripture and myself is un-call  for. HEY DIG  you flat earther’s  are brain washed…

    You scold D4T for belittling you (something he hasn’t done), and then immediately follow it up with more of your belittling of us.  Hmm…

    #826632
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    It is foundational that a man was anointed with the Holy Spirit and spoke for and did the works of God.

    Even the man born blind in Jn 9 knew this.

    Do you deny it?

     

    You are among friends if you do because most religious folk never grasp this truth.

    #826633
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    D4T:  What? Yes, Jewish people DID accept Yeshua! Hello, the disciples, remember them? The thousands in Acts 21:20? Ring a bell?

    🙂

    #826634
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    If Jesus was an eternal being of some kind why would he need anointing?

    Perhaps deny the anointing too as many do.

    #826635
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick, am I hearing you right that Yeshua was just a man?

     

    #826636
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick: Hi Mike,

    Are you done yet?

    Not even close.  Hey Nick, I have an assignment for you.  Do a little research and try to find out how the moon (or any object) can eclipse from the top down – in respect to the object that is causing the eclipsing shadow.

    Let us know what you find, okay?  Thanks.

    #826637
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Gene:  The ship you posted is going laterally not longitudinal from shore easily seen.

    What does that even mean, Gene?  Do you think the earth only curves on imaginary lines we call longitude, but not on the imaginary lines we call latitude?  You don’t think the earth is a cylinder, do you?  Because if it’s a ball, the curvature will be the same in any direction away from the observer.  And that video shows that a boat some ancient Greeks would have assumed disappeared over a curve horizon didn’t really disappear at all… it just went beyond our visual perspective, and was easily brought right back with a zoom lens.

    So why keep believing these mistakes the ancient Greek philosophers made when we now have zoom lenses that prove them wrong?

    #826638
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Yes Jesus of nazareth was a man alike to you. Conceived of God in Mary. Born of a woman and born under the jewish law.

    He was anointed with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan and went about doing good and healing those under the effects of Satan.

    Did you think he was a preexistent god who came to earth? Many pagans believe such things. Come out of her My people.

     

     

     

    #826639
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick: Hi Mike,

    Do you think God had a standard method for speaking through His servants, the prophets?

    I think I know you too well, as you did EXACTLY what I said you would do a couple of pages back, when I asked you to tell me who said the words in four particular verses of John 6.  😀

    Go back and find that post, ANSWER the question I asked you in that post, and THEN we can discuss the subject further.

     

    #826640
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    D4T:  Mike, actually my point was that the moon would have to be in that close to the earth to exert any gravational pull. It would obviously be overwhelmed by the gravitational pull of the earth. (Which you can see on the scale as earth’s gravitational pull goes way beyond the moon!) [How does the moon escape it?]

    Thanks for allowing me to clarify that! Maybe now it can sink in to everyone!

    Ah… got it.  Thanks for the clarification.

    #826641
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    D4T:  Earth’s gravitational pull:

    (E)……………………………… <Extends to here

    Moon’s gravitational pull:

    (M)…… <Extends to here

     

    So now to put it perspective, the moon must be at least as close as the distance at which its gravitational field extends.

     

    (E)……(M)…………………… <earth’s gravitational influence extends to here! 

            /\ moon’s gravitational influence only extends this far! 

     

    In order for the moon to have a gravitational influence on the earth it must be that close (or closer) to the earth. While the earth’s gravitational influence extends well beyond that of the moon! (Blue dots after the moon)

    If the moon were further away from the earth it would have NO gravitational attraction.

    Fantastic!  I never even thought about that before.  Thanks for sharing yet another instance where their own rules mess up their own theory!  🙂

    #826642
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike what your forgetting the suns gravitational pulling effect, both the moon and the earth at the same time, and as the moon circles the earth it is pulled forward on it earth orbit as it comes back toward the sun which recharges it momentum, and then the moon repeats the process over and over as they mon and earth go on there journey around the sun. If that were not the case the moon would eventually crash into the earth. They are held in motion by the sun graviton all pulls and momtium of there mass keep them in place around there orbits.

    Tell us why does it take two Gryos to make an auto pilot work, if as you say only one is needed. While you or I am not an expert in this field, I will tend to believe the experts, before your or my limited knowledge.

    Peace and love to you and yours……gene

    #826643
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Jas 5.17

    Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months.

    Elijah was a prophet who spoke for God and did miracles by the anointing given to him.

    Acts 3.2

    Moses said

    ’The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brethren; to him you shall give heed to everything he says to you. and it shall be that everyone that does not heed that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people’

    Did you think that he was not a prophet but a god?

    #826648
    Admin
    Keymaster

    Yeah, what’s up with that T8? The pages already load slower than molasses in winter. We don’t want to have to load an extra one each time.

    Not sure why it is doing that. I will look into it.

    #826653
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    The gravitational extents of the sun, earth and moon.

    Sun……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. < extent of sun’s gravitational effect (28 times that of earth)

    Earth……< extent of earth’s gravitational effect (6 times that of the moon)

    Moon. < extent of moon’s gravitational effect (not so much)

     

    Since it is said that the planets do have a gravitational effect on the sun we can do the same kind of chart to show the extent of their range in a comparative way.

     

    S…..M.E……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

     

    Notice I had to reduce the scale to even fit the sun’s reach!

    #826656
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Admin,

    Not sure why it is doing that. I will look into it.

    It is doing that in the Firstborn of all creation thread also.

    #826657
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Mike, this Flat Earther has a message for you.

    #826661
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,

    The Spirit in JesusChrist is the source of creation.

    The Spirit that was in the prophets.

    1 Peter 1.11

    And Jesus had the spirit of prophecy and all the other gifts of the Spirit specified in 1 Cor 12.

    The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    #829206
    Anthony
    Participant

    Hi Mike and Dig

    Scripture of the day: Job 26:7.  Stretching out the north over desolation, Hanging the earth upon nothing,.   If the earth were supported by pillars, it would contradict Job which tells us that God hung the earth on nothing. God bless,in Him Anthony.

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