A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #942843
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Hi Proclaimer,

    It’s sad that you can’t grasp simple basic things like “up” and “down”.
    Sorry, no offence, but come on!

    #942844
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Look in the mirror danny.

    Have you even attempted to bring back the sun at sunset?

    If no, then the truth doesn’t matter to you.

    If yes, then you failed, so explain why you can’t do it.

    I can. It went over the horizon because the earth is revolving.

    The facts are all on the side of the earth being globe.

    Flat Earth is a stone age view that reality, science, and scripture does not support.

    And all lies come from the father of lies.

    Nothing good comes from a lie.

    #942861
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Common sense tells every free-thinking person correctly that there truly is an “up” and “down” in nature, unlike the “everything is relative” rhetoric of the Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm.

    #942873
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Common Sense proves the earth is not flat

    I do respect common sense and feel that society today does lack common sense in many things. Like men getting pregnant for example. Let’s look at other ways people today lack common sense, in particular flat earthers.

    1. They believe that millions of people in the space industry, pilots, scientists, explorers, sailors in the Round the World Yacht Race, satellite TV companies and employees, mobile phone operators, Elon Musk, meteorological organisations, the military, etc are hiding the flat earth. And not one of these shapeshifting lizards have come forward despite Wikileaks and Project Veritas.
    2. They believe that Antarctica is patrolled by the military and given the circumference of their ice wall, this would require 10,000 or so military boats.
    3. They believe that the distances in the Southern Hemisphere on the flat earth represent reality.
    4. They believe the earth is flat despite not being able to bring back the sun with a zoom lens shortly after it has set.
    5. They believe the bible teaches the flat earth, but cannot give you one scripture when you ask for their best one.
    6. They believe the earth is flat despite the stars rotating in different directions in each hemisphere.
    7. They deny the shape of the Earth’s shadow during a solar eclipse: During a solar eclipse, the Earth’s shadow is cast on the moon, and it appears to be curved, indicating that the Earth is round.
    8. They do not understand the implications of climbing higher and seeing more distance.
    9. They believe that this trillion dollar conspiracy exists in order to hide God when in fact our current understanding of the universe and its fine tuning for life shows the works of an eternal God very clearly for those who have eyes.
    10. They believe the flat earth despite zero evidence for it. No photos, no math, no predictions like solar eclipses etc.

    Let’s be real. Common sense debunks the flat earth.

    #942876
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    fshs

    #942883
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    v

    #942885
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Easy debunk

    You can perform this yourself easily. When you are further out, you see more of the globe.

    #942886
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The Theory of Uppity makes a comeback

    Your stuck with your theory of uppity.

    What is your proof that uppity is reality and gravity is not.

    You have no proof.

    Just a stone age view based entirely off your own perspective.

    If you lived 100% of your life inside a moving train that was doing 100 mph consistently, you would argue that you were still and trees and people outside were all moving despite their hair not moving and trees not bending because of the movement. That too is a stone age view.

    As you can see, you completely lack the understanding of different realities based on your unique position. This is what Einstein taught us and he called it Relativity. So inside the train your reality is different to the reality of those outside. Notice that both realities are correct, but determined by perspective of the viewer. Relativity means that reality is relative to each of us. So to you I might seem like I am upside-down because I live in the land down under. But from my perspective, you are upside down. Of course, gravity tells us that up and down are relative. Up is heading away from earth and down is heading toward the centre of earth. This truth ticks all the boxes for all perspectives. Your ridiculous way of seeing things forces you to believe we are on a floating pepperoni pizza and on the same side of that world. But we are not. I am on the other side.

    To wrap up. You have zero proof of uppity, yet their is a ton of proof for gravity. Much technology and designs of aircraft, satellites, and even cars take gravity for granted. If they ignored it, they would do so at their own peril. I guess you would be happy to fly with Flat Earth airlines. Taking a straight line on the flat earth keeps you at the same altitude, but because we are on a globe, you would be sent into outer space.

    Bye bye! Remember to pack oxygen when you fly Flat Earth Airways. Make sure you have travel insurance, so your family will be looked after.

    #942887
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    BTW, why haven’t you brought back the sun after sunset using zoom. If you can supposedly do it with boats, then do it with the biggest light from our perspective. You can’t. You lose then. But then your ability to pretend is quite remarkable.

    #942898
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant
    #942899
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi Danny.

    Your meme is useless. It proves nothing. All you really have are useless memes.

    Do something useful like bringing the sun back after sunset using zoom.

    You can’t do it because the earth is not flat. Rather, the sun has sunk below your horizon. Simple.

    Did you know you can watch the sunset multiple times if you are able to gain altitude fast? This means that when you gain height, you see further over the horizon and can see the sun again. This can only work on the globe and cannot work on a flat disc. Observation and common sense are important. Do not throw them away for useless memes.

    Even if we ignore all other evidence, this alone means your flat earth is a lie.

    #942902
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Seek and you will find

    If you cannot afford a trip to Dubai, then buy a drone and watch the sun set twice from your own backyard.

    You see the further from earth you get, the more of the globe you get to see. This also explains why some photos of earth show countries looking bigger. If you see less of the globe, the land you can see will take up more of the earth in your view.

    It’s all logical and common sense when you think about it.

    Question everything, otherwise you will be fooled by tricksters.

    #942911
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Show us people upside down

    Here is a side view of the globe.

    Of course, the satellite or camera could rotate to get a different view and the resulting photo could be rotated to match the man-made maps that place the north at the top.

    But think further. If you wanted to zoom in and capture people swimming on the side, you would have to get closer and you would end up pointing your camera down and zoom in and end up with the same view as Google Earth. An aerial view. This is reality, not your theory of uppity which is one of the most childish things I have ever heard.

    globe

     

    #942912
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Look what happens when you rotate the photo.

    Of course, the satellite or camera could get this view if it rotated.

    Amazing that such basic realities need to be explained.

    globe

    #942918
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    The existing laws of density and buoyancy perfectly explained the physics of falling objects long before knighted Freemason “Sir” Isaac Newton bestowed his theory of “gravity” upon the world.

    #942920
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    While Newton’s membership was largely intellectual, his scientific achievements and contributions were not directly related to his membership in the organization. In fact, he is widely considered to be one of the most important figures in the history of Christian thought. He wrote extensively on theological topics, including a treatise on the interpretation of biblical prophecy titled “Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John.” Newton also believed that his scientific work was a way of understanding God’s creation and revealing the mysteries of the universe that He had created.

    IMO, a man who searched for truth and found it, unlike yourself Danny. If your heart is not tuned for truth, you will believe in lies.

    #942921
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I notice that you have not posted a video of you bringing back the sun. What is the delay?

    #942922
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Like Mike, you have been debunked so much that most people would have at least questioned their beliefs by now. But not yourself and Mike. Are you aware that the Flat Earth movement has sunk. I guess many adherents just realised after a while how foolish a belief it was.

    #942924
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Another prominent flat earther admits he was wrong

    Not looking too good for those few who are still hanging onto the lie.

    #942930
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    iq

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