A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #891191
    Proclaimer
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    stupidity

    #891662
    Berean
    Participant

    #891718
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Flat Earth was well and truly debunked in this thread.

    #891862
    Proclaimer
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    #892072
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Bill Burr On Anti-Vax Conspiracy Theories & Flat Earth

    #892127
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It’s called Pride

    And pride goes before a fall.

    wrong

    #892358
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    2D Earth?

    Hey Mike. You haven’t been corrected on this particular point yet.

    A circle is defined as the following:

    circle is a shape consisting of all points in a plane that are at a given distance from a given point, the centre; equivalently it is the curve traced out by a point that moves in a plane so that its distance from a given point is constant.

    Thus, neither the globe or your flat earth model truly a circle by definition is it?

    Both the globe and the flat earth are 3D with circular properties. They are not fully residing in a 2D plane. If you take a photo of the globe or look down on it from above to view it as a 2D object, then it is a circle. Same goes for the pizza in a wok, except you can only be in one exact spot to see the circle.

    As far as defining one of these as a circle, it seems a bit rich to suggest that a globe is not a circle and the flat earth is.

    images

    globe

    They both look 3D to me. Are you suggesting that the Bible teaches that the earth is 2D? Lol.

    Another debunk.

    #892449
    Proclaimer
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    Nobody in the history of the world has thought that the Biblical description of a flat earth meant a 2D circle – until you.

    Thank you. We are making progress.

    So your no1 verse for Flat Earth supports the globe because a globe is a 3D circle. Your own statement above debunks your earlier argument that it cannot be a globe because it says ‘circle’.

    He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

    Another debunk complete.

    #895192
    Proclaimer
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    Flat Earth challenge accepted

    The earth is actually a giant pizza floating through outer space. Haven’t you ever heard of the earth’s crust? Okay, enough of that. Here is a short video that absolutely debunks the flat earth with one point.

    #895309
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Inside Flat Earth: An Exposè by an Ex-Flat Earther

    Words from Ranty who use to be a prominent Flat Earther.

    #895312
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Proclaimer……..Good video post.

    peace and love to you and yours ………..gene

    #895320
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Mike:  Nobody in the history of the world has thought that the Biblical description of a flat earth meant a 2D circle – until you.

    Proclaimer:  Thank you. We are making progress.

    You’re welcome.  I’m glad I was able to help you see that the term “flat earth” doesn’t mean that the earth is a 2-dimensional circle.  For future reference, if you’re at a restaurant and see “flatbread” on the menu, it’s not literally a 2-D rectangle.  It’s 3-D, and you can eat it. 😉

     

    #895417
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So now you have to agree that the globe is a circle.

    Progress.

    🙂

    #895418
    Proclaimer
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    Lorde says she ‘shouldn’t have gone’ to Antarctica due to environmental impact

    Looks like Lorde has joined the lizard people. Pretending that she went to Antarctica. Lol.

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/lifestyle/travel/lorde-says-she-shouldnt-have-gone-to-antarctica-after-reflecting-on-environmental-impact/

    #899940
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Earth

    #900031
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Ball Earther claims Flat Earther’s £10K challenge!

    The Flat Earther was debunked and he never paid.

    #900140
    Proclaimer
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    What was Found Under The Ice in Antarctica?

    Just recently, the fifth largest continent in the world recorded a temperature of minus 89.2 degrees Celsius. But was it always a cold continent? could drilling into sub-glacial lakes provide an answer.

    #930063
    Proclaimer
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    @dig4truth

    I would love to hear any response to the vacuum of space discussion.

    Does our air that thins out (becomes less dense and thereby becomes less susceptible to “gravity” just stay in place? Or does it go into the vacuum of space, which is much more powerful?

    Any thoughts?

    Was randomly looking in this topic and found this little misunderstanding.

    Has already been answered, but in case you missed it.

    Jump into the sea. Go two feet down. Can you feel the pressure. Now go 200 feet down. More pressure? What about 2000 feet? More pressure? Is it not the same for air? start at the top of the atmosphere and go 2000 feet down. Different pressure right?

    So why doesn’t the lighter pressure water suck in the higher pressure water the very argument you make for air?

    See that diggy?

    The water below has the weight of the water above on top of it. Likewise the air we breathe has the weight of all air above. IF air should just get sucked up, then why doesn’t water do it? Could it be gravity?

    And why doesn’t the water 2 fee down get sucked into the lighter air above the water?

    #930207
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Mike, you are in the Stone Age.

    But we live in the Space Age.

    Knowledge has increased.

    You need to catch up. It’s 2022 AD. Not 2022 BC.

    BTW, this facility is about 4 hours away from where I live. The reason I choose this video.

    So a question for you Mike. How come they never hit the dome?

    And from here, the end of the disc should come into view since it is relatively close to Antarctica.

    Or are these people really shape-shifters who are good with Photoshop?

    Anyway, where are the Flat Earther’s rockets being launched into space and showing us the flat disc?

    The answer is that they cannot do it because you need a good understanding of science ot launch rockets.

    Lol. Enjoy the view!

    #930281
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    I am putting Proclaimer on the Hot Seat.  He created this forum years ago for the sole purpose of FORCING someone who is dodging questions to directly answer those questions – under penalty of getting strikes for failing to comply.

    For over a month now, Proclaimer has been intentionally dodging dozens of my direct questions about the creation account in Genesis 1.  In this thread, he MUST (by his own rules) DIRECTLY ANSWER those questions (and I must directly answer any that he asks.)

    First question…

    Proclaimer, a day on earth lasts 24 hours, and is governed by the sun-earth cycle.  Scientism says that, ever since the sun earth cycle began (4.5 billion years ago), there has NEVER been a day on earth that lasted more than 24 hours.

    Knowing this, how long was each day of creation in the Genesis account AFTER the appearance of the sun on day four?

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