Flat Earthers gather in New Zealand

Flat Earthers hold a conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

Flat Earth celebrities have flown across the globe to speak at the Flat Earth Expo in Auckland, New Zealand. Flat Earthers believe that we live on a flat plane rather than the accepted globe model. Flat Earthers also believe that most evidence to the contrary is controlled by a giant conspiracy of which NASA is at the forefront.

The Flat Earth model has the north pole in the centre of a flat circular disc and the South Pole as not existing at all. Instead, they believe that Antarctica is a giant encircling ice wall that hems in the world’s oceans. They point out that nearly all of us have never visited Antarctica, thus we rely on the testimony of a few who claim to have visited the frozen continent, and who are mostly lying to us and are part of the conspiracy. Flat Earthers are quick to point out that it is illegal to visit Antarctica. Whether this is true or not, the fact is, it is illegal to do a number of things in any protected wilderness areas of the world of which Antarctica is a special one.

This conference in Auckland comes with a huge opportunity. Flat Earthers flying to New Zealand from the Northern Hemisphere have a unique opportunity to prove to themselves that the Earth is not flat and instead the mostly accepted globe. They only need to travel via South America to New Zealand and note the hours spent getting there will be way less than their Flat Earth model would have you believe. You see, the Flat Earth disc with no south pole has New Zealand, Australia, South America, and Africa many times apart in distance from each other as the globe suggests, simply because, instead of reducing down to a single point we call the South Pole, the area of land in the Southern Hemisphere expands out to the giant ice wall circumference of the whole disc. This projection is similar to how we view Canada, Russia, or even Antarctica on most world maps where they are many times larger on these maps than they are in reality . This is because maps have difficulty projecting a 3D globe onto their 2D canvas. In essence, the Flat Earth model is a 2D construct as it is a flat surface albeit disc shape, so it has the Southern Hemisphere as being much larger in area than it really is.

Sitting in an isolated spot in the Southern Hemisphere, New Zealand gives these Flat Earthers travelling to Auckland the unique opportunity to debunk their own belief. But how many will actually test this out? I am thinking perhaps a few, but most of these guys will just be looking forward to rubbing shoulders with their Flat Earth brothers when they get here and on-route looking out toward the flat horizon because they are simply not flying high enough to see the curve.

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  • #826180
    Lightenup
    Participant

    About the first day of creation and the Light…I recently saw this in an ancient Syriac writing of the “Teachings of the Disciples” which I had read before but forgot or missed that it said this about the first day of the week, day one.

    2.  The apostles further appointed:  On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the Holy Scriptures, and the oblation:3068  because on the first day of the week our Lord rose from the place of the dead and on the first day of the week He arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week He ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week He will appear at last with the angels of heaven.3069

    So that is saying:

    On the first day of the week:

    1. Our Lord rose from the place of the dead
    2. He arose upon the world
    3. He ascended up to heaven
    4. He will appear at last with the angels of heaven

    He arose upon the world on the first day of the week…could be in reference of day one of creation. After all, the Son is the Firstborn of all creation.

    To read the ancient writing go here: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.ix.vii.html

    #826187
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    An eternal circle’s circumference is a straight line. So a really big circle looks like a straight line too.

    #826189
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Ed: “Because the stars and moon are seen at NIGHT (day 4) and because you need the sun to have the first DAY (day 1)”

     

     

    You know, whatever you want to believe, simply believe it. I’ll stick to the Word of God.

    #826191
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Lightenup: “Thanks for the video. That was terrific, simple and clear. The earth is a globe!”

     

     

    So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth but it doesn’t have an effect on planes flying in different directions?  If it is rotating 1,000+ mph in one direction how then could it not have an effect on a plane flying in the opposite direction?

    The video asks you to hold your hand out of a moving car and feel the force of friction. Ok, now multiply that by several hundred times. Does it have any impact on a plane? You would think that it does. I would too.

    Conservation of motion? The plane already has the spin of the earth at takeoff?

    What about ones going in the opposite direction? There would be a 1,000+ mph discrepancy in their speeds!!

    Please, this stuff just makes the globalists sound silly.

     

     

     

    #826192
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.

     

    #826194
    Ed J
    Participant

    He called the light “Day”

    #826195
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    The Son was conceived and born of a woman and named Yeshua after that.

    The Word was with God and was God in the beginning.

    The Word was made flesh at the Jordan.

    #826196
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    T8, the circumference of a circle is the distance around it. How you can get a straight line out of that I’m not sure.

    #826197
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Of course the Hebrew word for LIGHT used in Gen 1. 1-5

    is not the same as the Hebrew word for LIGHT in Gen 1. 1-14

    #826198
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    You guys should know.

    You are making straight lines out of circumferences all day long.

    #826199
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    The atmosphere is rotating with the earth??

    Where do the winds of earth come from?

    Why is the westerly predominant?

    #826200
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike… tell us have you changed your mind yet after the tons of proof given you, OR ARE YOU STILL IN DENIAL?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #826201
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    If you have sold out to deception and become a zealous missionary for falsehood

    it is a long and painful return journey.

     

    #826202
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick:  “Of course the Hebrew word for LIGHT used in Gen 1. 1-5 is not the same as the Hebrew word for LIGHT in Gen 1. 1-14”

     

     

    Do you stop to think about what you are saying? Gen. 1:1-5 overlaps Gen 1:1-14. Please back up your assertion with the proper Strongs concordance or something as accepted by Hebrew scholars.

    Come on Nick, don’t just throw random insinuations around.

     

     

     

    #826203
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….The jet streams move the air around creating high pressure and low pressure points. The wind rushes to nutralize the pressure differences, drawing the clouds with it, if they are available, otherwise we have just dry winds. That is the way i understand it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #826204
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick, there’s always one in every debate forum. One that is there to only cause confusion and dissent. I’m not saying who that “someone” is but I would be willing to bet you know him well.

    #826205
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick:”You guys should know. You are making straight lines out of circumferences all day long.”

     

     

    Nick, can you give one quote where we have done that?

    If not then you are … ignored!

     

    #826206
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Yea Nick, i think Mike would have a hard time saying he is wrong even with the tons of proofs staring him in the face. I don’t think he has convienced one person here of a Flat Earth yet, that i know of.

    We can’t say he didn’t try, i still love him though.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #826207
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The atmosphere moves with the Earth’s rotation

    So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth but it doesn’t have an effect on planes flying in different directions?  If it is rotating 1,000+ mph in one direction how then could it not have an effect on a plane flying in the opposite direction?

    The video asks you to hold your hand out of a moving car and feel the force of friction. Ok, now multiply that by several hundred times. Does it have any impact on a plane? You would think that it does. I would too.

    But the point is if you are inside the car, you essentially have the atmosphere contained and can throw the ball in the air and catch it as if you were stationary. Whereas, if you tried the same thing on a bike, then no such luck. Because the atmosphere is not contained to your point of reference. Likewise, Earth’s atmosphere is contained or aligned with the Earth itself, so even though you are on a moving earth. you throw a ball in the air and catch it as if you were stationary.  At some point though the ball would move away. If you propelled the ball into space, outside the earth and atmosphere, then that would be like throwing the ball from a moving motorbike. So the Earth and atmosphere works like being inside a car.

    Personally, I always wondered about such things and have googled space elevators for example. They are theoretical elevators and that lift you up and when the Earth has moved underneath you, drop you back down at your desired destination along the line or orbital direction of course. Seems like a better way to travel than a plane that needs to actually propel you to your destination. Of course, the downside is you have to be lifted incredibly high to escape the atmosphere that gravity is influencing. And then you realise that you probably need more energy to do that, than stay lower and move horizontally following the earth’s curve. Here is a video about space elevators.

    #826208
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Dig4truth,

    you said:

    Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.

    Of course, He was eternally within the Father before He was begotten on day one. Then, all things went from formless to formed by Him and for Him.

    Is this your confession Dig:

    Do you confess and believe in Christ who was crucified, and do you confess that He is from everlasting-the Son of God?

    And also

    Him who was with His Father from eternity and from everlasting; God, who was hidden in the height, and appeared in the depth; the glorious Son, who was from His Father, and is to be glorified, together with His Father, and His divine Spirit. And He was crucified of His own will by the hands of sinners, and was taken up to His Father,  and He is to come again, in His own glory and that of His holy angels.

    Do you confess those things?

     

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