Flat Earthers gather in New Zealand

Flat Earthers hold a conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

Flat Earth celebrities have flown across the globe to speak at the Flat Earth Expo in Auckland, New Zealand. Flat Earthers believe that we live on a flat plane rather than the accepted globe model. Flat Earthers also believe that most evidence to the contrary is controlled by a giant conspiracy of which NASA is at the forefront.

The Flat Earth model has the north pole in the centre of a flat circular disc and the South Pole as not existing at all. Instead, they believe that Antarctica is a giant encircling ice wall that hems in the world’s oceans. They point out that nearly all of us have never visited Antarctica, thus we rely on the testimony of a few who claim to have visited the frozen continent, and who are mostly lying to us and are part of the conspiracy. Flat Earthers are quick to point out that it is illegal to visit Antarctica. Whether this is true or not, the fact is, it is illegal to do a number of things in any protected wilderness areas of the world of which Antarctica is a special one.

This conference in Auckland comes with a huge opportunity. Flat Earthers flying to New Zealand from the Northern Hemisphere have a unique opportunity to prove to themselves that the Earth is not flat and instead the mostly accepted globe. They only need to travel via South America to New Zealand and note the hours spent getting there will be way less than their Flat Earth model would have you believe. You see, the Flat Earth disc with no south pole has New Zealand, Australia, South America, and Africa many times apart in distance from each other as the globe suggests, simply because, instead of reducing down to a single point we call the South Pole, the area of land in the Southern Hemisphere expands out to the giant ice wall circumference of the whole disc. This projection is similar to how we view Canada, Russia, or even Antarctica on most world maps where they are many times larger on these maps than they are in reality . This is because maps have difficulty projecting a 3D globe onto their 2D canvas. In essence, the Flat Earth model is a 2D construct as it is a flat surface albeit disc shape, so it has the Southern Hemisphere as being much larger in area than it really is.

Sitting in an isolated spot in the Southern Hemisphere, New Zealand gives these Flat Earthers travelling to Auckland the unique opportunity to debunk their own belief. But how many will actually test this out? I am thinking perhaps a few, but most of these guys will just be looking forward to rubbing shoulders with their Flat Earth brothers when they get here and on-route looking out toward the flat horizon because they are simply not flying high enough to see the curve.

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  • #937306
    mikeboll64
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    Proclaimer: So Mike, your fame is restored and everyone knows you created this successful topic. 

    Thank you.

    Proclaimer: BTW, feel free to offer a new title for the topic. It has to be SEO friendly and it cannot start with Flat Earth as it will demote the website in Google. What about this for a title: “Challenging the shape of our planet?”.

    As a quick exercise, please list a few other topics off the top of your head that would demote the website in Google.  Thanks.

    You can change the title of this thread to “Biblical Cosmology”.  After all, it’s a Bible discussion forum, and the essay you say you’re going to write is all about how Biblical cosmology isn’t really a terrarium world, right?

    And it seems Google is just fine with that terminology.  It pops up before you finish spelling it out…

    Screenshot (433)

     

    And it’s got Wiki, Encyclopedia.com, and the University of Idaho right on the first page…

    Screenshot (434)

    So it’s safe to say that the term “Biblical Cosmology” is not being shadow banned or censored. 👍

    If I had named it that from the start, your site might even be on the first Google results page by now! 😎

    #937307
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Proclaimer, I made a string of posts to you yesterday – each one of them directly responding to posts that YOU wrote.  You haven’t addressed a single one of them.  Instead, like you always seem to do, you started posting memes and other nonsense like a madman, trying your best to put a whole bunch of distance between the current page of the thread and the page where I posted the questions that you’re afraid of.

    They are the last six posts on page 268 of this thread.  I would really like DIRECT and HONEST responses for at least the first three of them.  And those first three are in order of importance to me, so if you’re only going to address one of them, address the first one (6th from the bottom of page 268).

    Thanks.

    #937309
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Thanks. Each meme debunks the flat earth and they don’t take too much time to post which is awesome. Remember, it only takes one to be true and your FE falls. So your theory has been debunked hundreds of times with little effort from me. Bang for buck as they say. And people can read them fast and easy.

    You see, I’m collecting all the arguments against flat earth. Otherwise I would forget them. Thanks for asking though.

    And hopefully I’ll debunk your flawed rebuttals soon. In the meantime stay awesome. You are that guy who started this topic right?

    #937311
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    As a quick exercise, please list a few other topics off the top of your head that would demote the website in Google.  Thanks.

    1. Donald (Duck) T;
    2. Cue a non;
    3. Debunking 1slam;
    4. M00n land1ng 1s fke;
    5. B1d3n lapt0p;
    6. Guns n Roses minus the last two words;
    7. Vacks1nne5;
    8. Mikeboll;
    9. Wh1te Supr5m5cy;
    10. Elect10n r1gg11ng.

    Some are of course justified, Some are not.

    Q: What is a good title for your successful topic?

    #937312
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    This is the closest to the Hebrew text of all the versions you posted.  Birds don’t fly IN the firmament, but across the FACE of it.  Just like in Gen 1:2, the Holy Spirit wasn’t hovering IN the waters, but over the FACE of them.

    So the Spirit was a above the waters like birds are above the dome. Maybe there is a window just big enough for birds? All we need now is a volunteer dwarf to climb through with a GoPro.

    BTW, on the subject of waters, if it exists below the disc and above in liquid form, then why not setup a GoFund Me page to pay for digging a big hole till you hit the water and then drop a submarine down the hole with FEs inside. Then take that baby all the way to heaven.

    #937313
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Proclaimer:  Donald (Duck) T;
    Cue a non;
    Debunking 1slam;
    M00n land1ng 1s fke;
    B1d3n lapt0p;
    Guns n Roses minus the last two words;
    Vacks1nne5;
    Mikeboll;
    Wh1te Supr5m5cy;
    Elect10n r1gg11ng.

    They block the TRUTH about these things, Proclaimer.  You can love Islam, and Google loves you.  But tell the TRUTH about it, and you’re blocked.  You can promote the moon landings as real, and Google loves you.  But tell the TRUTH about it, and your blocked.  Same with the death jabs and the rest of them.  The topics themselves are not blocked… just those of us who try to tell the TRUTH about them.

    So you can title your essay, “The Stupidity of Flat Earth”, and Google will promote the crap out of you.  But if you tell the TRUTH about it, you’ll be blocked or shadow banned.

    And they started this algorithmic shadow banning with Flat Earth.  Why do you think that is?  🤔

    #937314
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Proclaimer:  And hopefully I’ll debunk your flawed rebuttals soon.

    Why not now?

     

    #937315
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Mike:  This is the closest to the Hebrew text of all the versions you posted.  Birds don’t fly IN the firmament, but across the FACE of it.  Just like in Gen 1:2, the Holy Spirit wasn’t hovering IN the waters, but over the FACE of them.

     

    Proclaimer:  So the Spirit was a above the waters like birds are above the dome.

    No.  Now please answer the direct questions at the bottom of the same post my quote above came from.  Thanks.

    #937316
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Here’s the rest of it, for ease of access…

    Proclaimer:  You see Mike. After God made the heavens and the earth, he then created birds to fly in the expanse of heaven and he placed the sun and moon in that expanse. typically we call that the sky. It’s not a big deal Mike.

    Slow down.  You keep trying to tell your entire story all at once so you can skim over the important points I’m trying to make.

    So far we both agree that it was the firmament that God named “heaven”, right?  What about the other questions in my quote above?

    1.  Can you see that the firmament supports waters that are above it?  What exactly are the waters above “the sky” that are being supported by the sky?

    Please address this point, Proclaimer.  And remember that the waters are ABOVE the firmament that God named “heaven”, not IN them.  What are these waters in your understanding?

    2.  Also, if “heaven” already existed in Gen 1:1 like you claim, why would God have to create “heaven” on Day 2?

    Please address this point, Proclaimer.  Your interpretation relies on God creating heaven AFTER heaven already existed, God creating earth AFTER earth already existed, and God creating the sun, moon and stars AFTER they already existed.

    So please directly address these two points that you ignored – even though you quoted them in your response.  Thanks.

    #937317
    mikeboll64
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    Proclaimer:  Q: What is a good title for your successful topic?

    Already answered that.  You can either put MY original title back onto MY thread – or I will allow you to change it to “Biblical Cosmology”.  Those are your two choices…

    1.  Flat Earth?

    2.  Biblical Cosmology

    Thanks.

    #937319
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    No 1 will demote the website in Google. No2 is fine.

    #937320
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Slow down.  You keep trying to tell your entire story all at once so you can skim over the important points I’m trying to make.

    Sorry if it was too much to process  but was supplying more than one witness to show that it means sky. This needs to happen sometimes. I’ll try and keep it simpler next time if possible.

    #937321
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    They block the TRUTH about these things, Proclaimer.  You can love Islam, and Google loves you.  But tell the TRUTH about it, and you’re blocked.  You can promote the moon landings as real, and Google loves you.  But tell the TRUTH about it, and your blocked.  Same with the death jabs and the rest of them.  The topics themselves are not blocked… just those of us who try to tell the TRUTH about them.

    Tried it for one or two years Mike. All I got was low quality postings most of the time.

    Decided to put the site back in the mainstream in an attempt to get better posts.

    Two other reasons.

    1. Alt search engines still use Google IMO. The site ranked well in Google before flat earth, Q  and The Don. So should have ranked well in Duck because they don’t censor. But it seems when you don’t rank in Google, you don’t rank in Duck. I suspect they use Google results as an indicator for quality sites. IMO, they should promote sites that block Google. When they do that, I’ll think about reverting it back.

    2. The local site search was bad. It’s better now that I’m using Google. You were the main complainer BTW. Can’t have it both ways Mike. One hand gives  the other takes away.

    #937322
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Why not now?

    FE is not my priority right now mate. Hang in there. I answer these other questions because they are easy to do from my phone.

    #937324
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So the Spirit was a above the waters like birds are above the dome?

    #937326
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike…….please tell us , what mountain can we climbe to “see”, “all the kingdoms of this world” , i would like to go there and see them all,  but don’t know which one can give me that,  perhaps your “flat earth” pals,  can show us that mountain, you say exists. LOL. 

    Peace and love to you and yours Mike…….gene

    #937329
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Proclaimer:  So the Spirit was a above the waters like birds are above the dome?

    I already answered “No” to your silly question.  The Spirit hovered across the face of the waters (ie: above it), and birds fly across the face of the firmament (ie: below it).

    Proclaimer:  You see Mike. After God made the heavens and the earth, he then created birds to fly in the expanse of heaven and he placed the sun and moon in that expanse. typically we call that the sky. It’s not a big deal Mike.

    Slow down.  You keep trying to tell your entire story all at once so you can skim over the important points I’m trying to make.

    So far we both agree that it was the firmament that God named “heaven”, right?  What about the other questions in my quote above?

    1.  Can you see that the firmament supports waters that are above it?  What exactly are the waters above “the sky” that are being supported by the sky?

    Please address this point, Proclaimer.  And remember that the waters are ABOVE the firmament that God named “heaven”, not IN them.  What are these waters in your understanding?

    2.  Also, if “heaven” already existed in Gen 1:1 like you claim, why would God have to create “heaven” on Day 2?

    Your interpretation relies on God creating heaven AFTER heaven already existed, God creating earth AFTER earth already existed, and God creating the sun, moon and stars AFTER they already existed.

    Please explain this oddity?  Thanks.

    #937330
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Mike…….please tell us , what mountain can we climbe to “see”, “all the kingdoms of this world” , i would like to go there and see them all,  but don’t know which one can give me that,  perhaps your “flat earth” pals,  can show us that mountain, you say exists. LOL.

    Mike, is the reason for such a mountain not existing have anything to do with pollution? Lol.

    #937331
    mikeboll64
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    Gene (I saw it on TV) Balthrop:  Mike…….please tell us , what mountain can we climbe to “see”, “all the kingdoms of this world”
    Pretender:  Mike, is the reason for such a mountain not existing have anything to do with pollution? Lol.

    Sorry guys, I can barely hear you from those rocks you’re hiding under.  Maybe you could come out into the open and gird up your loins like men?  And from out here, you’ll also be able to see this a little better…

    Matthew 4:8… The devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

    Do you two in the shadows think that the apostles of Jesus made this story up out of thin air?  Or is it more likely that Jesus related the event to them?

    So the question isn’t to me, but to Jesus who gave the account of what happened to him, right?

    How about you guys leave me completely out of it for just a second, and explain why JESUS would tell of such an event that would be impossible on a ball earth?

    Ready, set, GO!

    (Oh, and make sure to speak loudly so the rest of us can hear you from your hiding places.  Thanks.)

     

    #937332
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Pretender:  FE is not my priority right now mate. Hang in there.

    Really?  You never post on any other threads these days, but post 10 times a day on the FE thread.  And you say you’re in the process of writing a BOOK about FE.  But then you also say FE isn’t your priority.  Hmm…

    And how long should I hang in there, Pretender?  I’ve been hanging in there to hear your direct answers to these questions ever since I asked them on the “Conspiracies” thread – many months ago.  You hid from them there, and so I created a private Hot Seat thread where your own rules say you HAVE TO answer them.  But you broke your own rules and hid from them there too.  In fact, you’re STILL breaking your own rules and hiding from them there… many months later.  And so I came to your favorite thread in the whole wide world to ask the same questions… and you’re hiding from them here too!  😂

    Pretender, what exactly are you so afraid of?  What scares you so much about giving serious and honest answers to the questions I ask you concerning the Bible?  And what should we make of a person who does everything in his power to avoid directly answering simple, straightforward questions about the Bible?

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