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April 19, 2015 at 11:01 am#794639
kerwin
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David,
Do you believers are persons withing the Godhead by adoption or that they are sons of God, as of the Spirit, by adoption?
I believe Jesus received the Spirit before he could sin and lived by the Spirit even though tempted as is common to humanity so he did not have to be adopted. The rest of humanity on the other hand has sinned and so is required to adopted, as of the Spirit, by God.
April 20, 2015 at 8:03 am#794956
DavidL
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The issue is you deny the Deity of Jesus
When Christ Himself claimed to be the Son of God – outright..!!
By accepting Jesus, we accept His Divine nature
thus we are grafted into the Vine…
as adopted sons..

Our sonship itself is dependent on the Son being God (One with the Father).
April 20, 2015 at 8:34 am#794958
NickHassan
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Hi davidl,
This is a new teaching.
But are you not a branch of the vine.
Is the vine of a different nature than the branches grafted onto it?

April 20, 2015 at 8:36 am#794959
NickHassan
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Hi KW,
Your beliefs about Jesus and the Spirit have no scriptural foundation.
April 20, 2015 at 8:43 am#794963
NickHassan
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Hi davidl,
Branches are of exactly the same nature as the vine.
Both are different to the vinedresser.

You have a God.
Do you need to make your Lord into another god?

The fulness of deity was IN HIM.
God was IN HIM reconciling the world to himself
April 20, 2015 at 5:16 pm#795024
Proclaimer
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”I and the children which God has given me”.
Without looking into the original language and context, on the outset this does not appear to say or mean “sons of Christ”.
Jesus and the children of God who are his brothers.
But a quick google brought up these two verses which appear to be interchangeable or at least translated differently by different translations.
Galatians 3:26 (NIV)
So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith,
Galatians 3:26 (NASB)
For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
This gets me thinking that a son is a child in the usual sense of the word. Or starts of as a child.
John 1:12 (NIV)
Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God
John 1:12 (KJV)
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
April 20, 2015 at 5:21 pm#795025
Proclaimer
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@Davidl
Scripture speaks of the Son as God, the Spirit as God, and the Father as God
Why do you ignore that it also calls the sons of God and theos and angels as elohim?
Further, even Satan is called a theos.
Just because others are called or described as theos does not mean the Trinity is so DavidL. Is the Devil or the Judges of Israel part of the Trinity? No.
Did you not know that there are many so-called theos, but for us, there is ONE THEOS, the FATHER.
You cannot be US when Paul wrote that right?
April 20, 2015 at 5:44 pm#795030
kerwin
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David L,
To the spiritual device nature means like God in true righteousness and holiness as they hunger and thirst to be filled with that divine nature. Just in case you do not realize it, the only place divine nature is mentioned in the AV of the KJV is in reference to believers sharing in it, 2 Peter 1:4.
April 20, 2015 at 5:47 pm#795031
kerwin
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Nick,
Yes, I realize we disagree about the meaning of Scripture in regards to the time Jesus received the Spirit.
April 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm#795040
carmel
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But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
t8,
The above is a direct reference to:
THE SONS OF GOD NOT TO THE CHILDREN OF GOD!
ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE REASON WHY, SINCE YOU ARE IN CONFUSION REGARDING THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, and all what is related to it.
THE FACT THAT THE TRINITY IS RELATED TO BOTH REGARDING THE ABOVE DIFFERENT TITLES SONS/CHILDREN
AND ALSO WHAT YOU STATED HEREUNDER:
Just because others are called or described as theos does not mean the Trinity is so DavidL. Is the Devil or the Judges of Israel part of the Trinity? No.

YES ALL ARE PART OF THEIR RESPECTIVE TRINITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE ALL HUMANS ARE AND REPRESENTED IN THEIR OWN TRINITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :
AS SPIRIT, SOUL AND FLESH!
WHICH ON THE LAST THEY OF THE LORD, THEY ALL BECOME ONE
THE FACT THAT OUR FIRST PROCESS IS TO UNIFY

THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT FIRST FOR THE DETRIMENT OF THE FLESH, SATAN’S SUBSTANCE,
WHEN GOD KNOWS!!!! EVENTUALLY ALL SOULS WOULD BECOME ONE SUBSTANCE WITH THE SPIRIT, WHETHER IN THIS TERM ON EARTH, OR IN THE AFTER LIFE TERM!
THEN GOD THE FATHER WOULD SUPPLY THE NEW JERUSALEM, THE BRIDE, THE NEW IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE TO FORM THE NEW BODY
and that would be also THE BIGGEST TRINITY IN SPIRITS, SOULS, AND FLESH BODIES
BUT IN THE SAME TIME
ONE SUBSTANCE!
IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO BE

ALL IN ALL FOR ETERNITY
DECLARED IN:
1Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as he will: and to every seed its proper body.
NOW, ALSO NOTICE DAUGHTERS ARE NOT MENTIONED AT ALL!!!!!!
are daughters not IMPORTANT in the achievement of God’s kingdom?
ARE THEY USELESS CREATURES? DEFINITELY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOW, THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS ALSO RELATED TO THAT KIND OF AMBIGUITY!
WHICH IF WOMAN WOULD BE AWARE OF IT,THEY WOULD BE MORE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THEY IN THE TRUTH ARE PERFECTLY EQUAL WITH MAN IN THE PROCESS OF THE KINGDOM OF THE LORD GOD!
AS IT IS DECLARED IN:
1 Corinthians 11:11 But yet neither is
the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in the Lord.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
April 20, 2015 at 8:04 pm#795044
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@carmel,
you do not believe that the Father is the one true God, and that Jesus is not that God, instead is another that was sent by the one true God.
Because you do not believe this central truth, you do not believe the words of eternal life that Jesus spoke.
John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
John 10:27
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
Carmel, if you are one of the sheep, you will hear the voice of the shepherd. The shepherd clearly said that the Father is the one true God and Jesus is the one who whom he sent. But you do not hear his words of eternal life. Further, it is obviously important to hear him, and we are instructed to know him and his son.
How can you claim to know them when you argue against these words of eternal life?
This is a legit question and not an attack on your character. I would like an answer.
April 21, 2015 at 6:46 am#795074
DavidL
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t8
Did you not know that there are many so-called theos, but for us, there is ONE THEOS, the FATHER.
You cannot be US when Paul wrote that right?

Your understanding of Scripture is flawed…
because you have come to rely on logic to guide you,
rather than the Spirit of God…

The Father is the One true God – please remember that no “Trinitarian” denies this at all…
But you take one side of the coin as if it were the whole picture – and this is where you have stumbled…
Jesus clearly stated that He Himself was One with the one true God (His Father)..
A declaration that no mere “human,” however great, could ever say…

Please consider this, if you claim to seek the truth…

April 21, 2015 at 8:35 pm#795159
NickHassan
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Hi davidl,
If the Father is the one true God why do you need to add in a trinity theory?
April 22, 2015 at 5:01 am#795196
carmel
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So you do believe that the universe has always existed and then in an instant it started to exspand and is still expanding to this day.
Kerwin,
As Far as I know I was specific, and clear enough!
so Read again:
space
noun
1. a continuous area or expanse which is free, available, or unoccupied.
So space is UNOCCUPIED related to our understanding!
BUT RELATED TO GOD IT WAS NOT EMPTY AT ALL,
SINCE GOD WAS THAT SPECIFIC WHAT WE CALL SPACE
Then you kept insisting on the word UNIVERSE!
If dimensions have always existed then so has our universe though it was originally empty of all but God.
WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL UNOCCUPIED SPACE,
SINCE A UNIVERSE IS THE VERY SPACE BUT OCCUPIED
SPACE FULL OF CREATURES!READ:
WIKIPEDIA:
The Universe is the totality of existence.[8][9][10][11] This includes planets, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space, the smallest subatomic particles, and all matter and energy, the majority of which are most likely in the form of dark matter and dark energy.[12][13]
The part of the Universe that we can see, referred to as the observable universe, is about 28 billion parsecs (91×109 ly) in diameter at the present time.
[1] The size of the whole universe is not known and may be infinite.
CLEAR INFINITE!
So it is clear that if universe is space crammed with creatures, and also infinite! therefore there’s only one entity who is infinite, and that IS:
GOD ALMIGHTY!
NOW YOU CAME UP WITH:
God does not fit definition 1a1
WHO SAID THAT GOD FIT ANY KIND OF DEFINITION, except his unfathomable ?
HOW ON EARTH COULD WE USE OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, AND TERMS TO DEFINE GOD??
BUT THAT IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT HE HASN’T GOT HIS OWN MYSTERIOUS DEFINITION, AND DIMENSIONS!SINCE HE IS An unfathomable BEING?
THE FACT THAT GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS!
THEREFORE IF MAN HAS HIS OWN DEFINITIONS AND DIMENSIONS GOD ALSO HAS HIS OWN UNIQUE unfathomable MYSTERIOUS DEFINITIONS AND DIMENSIONS
NOW I SAID:
Space itself is the MYSTERIOUS DIMENSION WHICH WE CALL GOD!
God himself sustains all whatever is in that dimension!
SO GOD WAS THAT VERY FIRST WHAT WE CALL EMPTY SPACE,
THAT PARTICULAR EMPTY SPACE IS GOD, AND HAS HIS OWN MYSTERIOUS DIMENSIONS,AND DEFINITIONS.
NOW, FROM THAT VERY FIRST EMPTY SPACE A BIG BANG OCCURRED FROM WITHIN ITS CENTRE, BURNING LOVE!
IT STARTED, IT EXPANDED,IT IS EXPANDING, AND IT WILL NEVER END FROM EXPANDING!
THEREFORE IT WAS AND IT IS NOT EMPTY AT ALL, EVEN WHEN WE TOOK IT FOR GRANTED THAT IT WAS!!!!
TO CONCLUDE YOU SAID:
I have a hard, if not impossible, task describing him as he is not part of creation.
THIS IS BRILLIANCE FROM YOUR SIDE!!
YOU ARE DECLARING THAT GOD IS NOT PART OF CREATION!
EXPLAIN THIS THEN:
(1) ALL BY HIM,
ALL CREATION WAS CREATED BY GOD, AND CREATION IS WHAT WE CALL THE VISIBLE UNIVERSES WHICH IS WITHIN THAT WHAT WE CALL EMPTY SPACE, WHICH IS
GOD ALMIGHTY! WHICH IS SCRIPTURALLY DECLARED:
(2) ALL IN HIM
SO ALL THE UNIVERSES IS THE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
NOW GET THIS INTO YOUR MIND:
GOD ALMIGHTY WAS THAT ACTUAL WHAT WE CALL EMPTY SPACE!
HE WAS THE EXTERNAL UNIQUE SPIRIT ALL WITHIN HIMSELF!
GOD ALMIGHTY ESTABLISHED THE VERY FIRST ENTITY:
LET THERE BE LIGHT: “THE WORD”
THE BIG BANG COMMENCED CREATION! “THE WORD”
FROM THEN ON
” THE WORD ” OCCUPIED WHAT WE CALL THE ENTIRE EMPTY SPACE AVAILABLE IN THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME!
AND WITHIN “THE WORD” ABIDED GOD ALMIGHTY and it will remain there
FOR ETERNITY WITHIN THE VERY CENTRE OF “THE WORD” HIS SON!
HE WOULD NEVER BE AGAIN THE EXTERNAL SPIRIT ANY MORE LIKE HE WAS ALL BY HIMSELF,WHEN IT WAS WHAT WE CALL EMPTY SPACE!
THE LAST ONE:
THE ONLY EXTERNAL MANIFESTATION THAT GOD ALMIGHTY EVENTUALLY WOULD POSSESS IS:
JESUS CHRIST!
AND ALSO
THE ENTIRE CREATION ITSELF:
BUT ALSO THROUGH ” THE WORD” JESUS CHRIST!
AS 1John 3:2 declares:
Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God; and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know, that, when he shall appear,
we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is
GOD ALMIGHTY
ALL IN ALL
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
April 23, 2015 at 11:04 pm#795491
carmel
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But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: .
T8,
In view of the above,
I ASKED YOU :
ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE REASON WHY,
IT SAYS THE SONS OF GOD, MALES, and ignored completely the daughters, FEMALES. and NEVER USED THE TERMS
CHILDREN OF GOD?
you also said:
.
Just because others are called or described as theos does not mean the Trinity is so DavidL. Is the Devil or the Judges of Israel part of the Trinity? No.
YES the devil has his own trinity CONCEPT, otherwise he wouldn’t have existed at all!
God created all within the concept of its respective trinity,
SINCE HE HIMSELF ABIDED IN ALL: OMNIPRESENCE
THE FACT THAT WE LUCIFER’S REMNANTS ARE:
Spirit, souls and flesh! All in one
BODY, AND ON THE LAST DAY THESE THREE ENTITIES WOULD BECOME ONE FOR ETERNITY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR GOD ALMIGHTY TO ABIDE
ALL IN ALL!
ONE!
NOW SINCE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, YOU WILL NEVER DISCERN SCRIPTURES WHICH MANIFESTED IT, EXTRAVAGANTLY.
HEREUNDER SCRIPTURE GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF
THREE DIFFERENT FUNDAMENTAL TYPES OF TRINITY DOCTRINE DEPICTIONS!
OF COURSE YOU WOULD NEVER DISCERN THIS, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TRUTH, IT IS HEREUNDER FOR WHOEVER IS INTERESTED:
Matthew 17:1 AND after six days Jesus taketh unto him
Peter and James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart:
THE FIRST ONE:
Notice, John,
In the beginning of this chapter indicated the double trinity in THE UNIQUE HUMAN FIGURE of Jesus THE MESSIAH, both aS SON OF MAN, and SON OF GOD !
Simply in the NUMBER OF DAYS WHICH IS SIX
Which it is the only true reason that he included that particular phrase:
And after SIX days,
and also the term:
Jesus taketh unto him, followed by
Peter, James and John which demonstrates BOTH THE HUMAN BEING!
SON OF MAN!AND ADAM THEIR SINFUL FATHER.
This is manifested in Genesis 1:26,27
since it is on the SIXTH day that God
MADE MAN and
ALSO CREATED MAN a reference BOTH to the divine man Jesus, SON OF GOD, and to Adam, respectively! SON OF MAN, DEPICTED IN THE APOSTLES.
This is also asserted in the difference of the verses, where in 26, a reference to the divinity of Jesus, SON OF GOD,
God , MADE MAN, and declared that HE would have dominion over
every creeping creature that moves upon the earth. A REFERENCE TO THE DEVILS!!!!
But in 27, the ABOVE particular reference is not included, and also the word CREATED is used INSTEAD of MADE which is definitely a reference to the human being both of ADAM and also of Jesus!
THIS CONFIRMS THE PARADOXICAL STATE OF JESUS,
BOTH CREATED AND MADE, OBVIOUS SINCE WITHIN HIS SOUL, HE HAD SATAN’S SPIRIT, A CREATED BEING, AND AS
“THE WORD” SON OF GOD HE WASN’T!
THE SECOND ONE
Notice how John introduced the apostles:
PETER AND JAMES, and then he said AND JOHN! He should have written:
Peter, James and John. THIS IS TYPICAL of JOHN to make us aware of certain LIGHT! So in this case he made us aware, that PETER AND JAMES REPRESENT THE HUMAN BODY IN:
FLESH, depicted in PETER, and the SOUL depicted in JAMES!
THEN JOHN ON HIS OWN! Which depicted the spirit!
Also to notice that, JAMES AND JOHN WERE BROTHERS, A REFERENCE TO THEIR RELATION: SYMBOLICALLY SPIRITS
So The above verse is the most common kind of trinity, which is a reference to the SINFULL HUMAN BEING.
THE FACT THAT JOHN USED THE TERM:
Jesus taketh unto him,
THE THIRD ONE.
2 And he was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun: and his garments became white as snow.
3 And behold there appeared to them
Moses and Elias talking with him.
The above is RELATED TO THE MOST HIGH DIVINE TRINITY
THE GODHEAD GLORIFIED IN THE MAN JESUS!
JESUS represented THE FLESH “THE WORD MADE FLESH”
MOSES represented THE SOUL BY “THE WORD”
ELIJAH represented THE SPIRIT THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN “THE WORD” THE ONLY MEDIATOR SPIRIT.
AGAIN ALSO IN THIS CASE, MOSES AND ELIJAH UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME, BOTH WERE THE GREATEST PROPHETS, AND THEY SIGNIFY THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT RESPECTIVELY
ELIJAH, prefigure THE SPIRIT,
THE FACT THAT HE NEVER DIED, HE WENT TO HEAVEN ALIVE AS A HUMAN, ALTHOUGH HE WAS A HUMAN IN REALITY HE WAS ALSO A SPIRIT BEING! Elijah was never aware of this throughout his life!
MOSES, prefigure THE SOUL,
ALTHOUGH MOSES DIED, IN ACTUAL FACT HE DID SO, ONLY IN ORDER TO RESPECT THE CONCEPT THAT ALL SOULS DIED,
ADAM, THE FIRST SOUL DIED, AND ALL HIS EVENTUAL DESCENDANTS ALSO DIED!
TO NOTICE IS THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN JESUS AND MOSES WHICH IS OUTSTANDING THE FACT THAT THEY PREFIGURE THE HUMAN DIVINE BEING! IN SOUL AND FLESH!
THIS IS ALSO INDICATED IN THE FACT,THAT MOSES GRAVE WAS NEVER FOUND! WHICH IS AN INDICATION THAT WHEN THE MESSIAH CAME MOSES CAME BACK TO LIFE. HE WAS ONLY ASLEEP!
And Peter answering, said to Jesus: Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
4 And as he was yet speaking, behold a bright cloud overshadowed them.
NOTICE AS PETER WAS STILL TALKING AND WANTED TO MAKE THREE SEPARATE TENTS,
ONE CLOUD COVERED THEM,WHICH SIGNIFIES THAT ALTHOUGH THEY WERE THREE, THEY REPRESENTED THE UNITY OF THE TRINITY, THE GODHEAD AS ONE IN JESUS!
CONFIRMED AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN WORDS:
5 And lo, a voice out of the cloud, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: hear ye him.
NOTICE,AFTER THE CLOUD COVERED THE THREE OF THEM,NOT WHEN JESUS WAS ON HIS OWN, OR THE CLOUD COVERED JESUS ONLY,
GOD DECLARED AND SAID THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, OK?
THE THREE OF THEM, IN ONE CLOUD, REPRESENTED
THE SON OF GOD AS A DIVINE BEING IN
SPIRIT, SOUL, AND FLESH!
THE GODHEAD IN ITS GLORY!
JESUS CHRIST!
Now John ALSO emphasised the triune concept even in the THREE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES, NO MORE NO LESS!
In verse ONE he showed us TWO TYPES
THE SON OF GOD AND THE SON OF MAN! JESUS IN THE NUMBER SIX AND THE COMMON HUMAN BEINGS THROUGH ADAM! IN THE APOSTLES, PETER, JAMES, AND JOHN!
THEN:
From verse 2 onwards he MANIFESTED TO US,
JESUS’ TRIUNE GLORIFICATION, OF THE GODHEAD!
GOD MAN JESUS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST. THE ONLY MANIFESTATION OF GOD ON EARTH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
April 25, 2015 at 9:33 am#795623
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ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE REASON WHY, SINCE YOU ARE IN CONFUSION REGARDING THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, and all what is related to it.
No confusion whatsoever. I understand the Trinity Doctrine and hence the reason I do not believe it.
For me, there is one God the Father, and One Lord the Lord Jesus Christ. He was made both Lord and Christ by God and to the glory of God the Father.
April 25, 2015 at 9:44 am#795624
Proclaimer
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YES the devil has his own trinity CONCEPT\
If you have Trinity on the brain, then you can see Trinities everywhere you look. The same could be said for Binities. e.g., man and woman. Day and night. Negative and positive. This proves nothing.
If the Trinity is a central doctrine because 3 are mentioned, then why not take these Trinities seriously?
- 1 Timothy 5:21 says: “I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels”
- Luke 9:28: about eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray.
But seriously let’s look at some verses that mention what you would argue as the Trinity:
- 1 Corinthians 12:4-6 mentions the Spirit, Lord, and God;
- 2 Corinthians 13:14 lists Christ, God, and the Holy Ghost [Spirit];
- Galatians 4:4-6 lists God, Son, and Spirit of his Son;
- Ephesians 4:4-6 lists Spirit, Lord and, God; &
- 1 Peter 1:2 lists God, Spirit, and Jesus Christ.
Notice the above scriptures. Can you see the problem?
God is already defined and is talking about the Father.
April 25, 2015 at 9:48 am#795626
Proclaimer
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As for the transfiguration, why do you not believe the clear testimony of the Father, when he said, “This is my beloved son”?
Instead you focus on twisting the event to prove a Trinity?
Your explanation is clouded.
April 25, 2015 at 10:26 am#795628
kerwin
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Carmel,
The prevalent scientific story is that the universe was originally existed in infinitely small dimensions of space and then in one moment it underwent explosive growth of those dimensions and is still expanding to this day. That seems to be the idea you base your teaching on.
I believe God created the universe and therefore has no need for any space. When Scriptures tells us the All-Powers created the heavens and the earth in the beginning I hear he created the earthly universe and the heavenly universes in the beginning.
Scripture teaches us he created the earth and simply remains quiet on the rest of the universe.
Scientists assume that things began at certain point but Scripture tells us that God chose not to do it that way. When God lit the stars on the Forth Night and Day they were all visible even though it takes a few years for light to travel from the sun nearest to ours, much less further away. This teaches us that theory of the primordial egg is based on a faulty assumption. That makes the whole argument unsound.
April 25, 2015 at 9:09 pm#795677
carmel
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For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. (1 Corinthians 8:5-6)
t8,
REFLECT ON THE ABOVE STATEMENT BY PAUL:
for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live;
DEFINITION:
FOR US THERE’S BUT ONE GOD,THE FATHER,
What is the reason that Paul to make SURE that people would understand the truth, regarding the ALMIGHTY GOD didn’t say :
THE ALMIGHTY GOD AND FATHER,!
to stress the importance on the above PARTICULAR TITLE and confirms that he was referring IN THE TRUTH TO
GOD ALMIGHTY???? ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT instead He created WHAT LOOKS A DOUBT and he said:
GOD, followed by a comma SO THE STRESS IS ONLY ON the title of GOD, and also separated from the title of FATHER in order to make us aware that he was not referring to just one TITLE only ALMIGHTY GOD, but to another particular GOD TITLE!
Also to notice the article THE applied to FATHER!
By using the title THE FATHER we would definitely become aware that GOD ALMIGHTY WAS NOT ALWAYS IN POSSESSION IN THE TRUTH OF THAT PARTICULAR TITLE! and also that from that moment on HE BECAME SO FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME!
The fact that it was separated with a comma from the title GOD ALMIGHTY!
SO OFFICIALLY GOD ALMIGHTY WAS NEVER YET DECLARED ON EARTH AMONG HUMANS IN GENERAL IN FLESH AND BLOOD AS
THE FATHER, with the exception of the JEWS, and
THE CONTEXT OF THAT PASSAGE IS RELATED TO THE GENTILES!
AND PAUL WAS THE APOSTLE RESPONSIBLE FROM THE GENTILES TO PREACH TO THEM THE GOSPEL, ORDERED BY JESUS HIMSELF!
THE FACT THAT PAUL SAID:
FOR US, definitely as humans IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY GENTILES!!!!!
since GOD ALMIGHTY was ALWAYS
FATHER only of SONS, AND JEWS AS HIS CHOSEN NATION!
So Paul JUSTLY ESTABLISHED the OFFICIAL PERFECT reference both to
GOD ALMIGHTY and TO HIS GLORIFICATION IN, and BY, HIS SON JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH AS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
This is more asserted with the following CHARACTERISTICS mentioned by Paul after that particular title hereunder:
from whom all things came and for whom we live;
Reflect:
FROM WHOM ALL THINGS CAME,
The devil never came out from GOD ALMIGHTY!
BUT FROM JESUS, “THE WORD” THE SON AS A SPIRIT HE DID COME OUT! Since he was the first born of ALL creatures!
Adam never came out from GOD ALMIGHTY
BUT FROM JESUS, “THE WORD” THE SON AS A SPIRIT HE DID COME OUT! since he was the first born of all creatures!
Eve never came out from GOD ALMIGHTY!
BUT FROM JESUS, “THE WORD” THE SON AS A SPIRIT HE DID COME OUT! since he was the first born of all creatures!
THERE’S NO SPACE , AND TIME AVAILABLE TO LIST WHAT GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED IN, AND BY “THE WORD” THE SON, JESUS’ SPIRIT, IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, BUT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO PONDER READ HEREUNDER AND REFLECT VERY DEEP BEFORE YOU HAVE THE LEAST EAGERNESS TO ANSWER THIS POST, BECAUSE IT IS NOT MINE, BUT
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME IS TALKING:
JESUS as a human in flesh and blood, never came out from GOD ALMIGHTY as such:
BUT FROM JESUS, “THE WORD” AS A SPIRIT HE DID COME OUT!since he was the first born of all creatures!
SO WHEN PAUL SAID:
FOR US , THERE’S ONE GOD, THE FATHER,
HE DEFINITELY never MEANT to refer to GOD ALMIGHTY ONLY IN THE TRUTH BUT TO:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRST
THE LAST DETAIL:
the last bit of attribute which Paul allocated to
GOD, THE FATHER, IS:
through whom we live.
Now reflect:
IN ORDER TO BE ACCEPTED BY GOD ALMIGHTY,
THROUGH WHOM WE ACTUALLY LIVE:
NO DO NOT ANSWER I WILL DO IT FOR YOU SINCE WITH EVERY RESPECT,
IT IS NOT ACCEPTED WITHIN YOUR UNDERSTANDING:

THROUGH ” THE WORD” JESUS’ SPIRIT
THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT
JESUS CHRIST
WITH WHOM THE FATHER IS WELL PLEASED TO ABIDE WITHIN!
AND ENRICHED HIMSELF WITH THE TITLE OF:

THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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