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  • June 4, 2015 at 7:32 pm#798894
    NickHassan
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    Hi Guys,

    I am sorry but the sheer weight of the repair work done to the trinity doctrine is threatening to bring the whole structure down.

     

    June 4, 2015 at 7:34 pm#798895
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    No you are deceived.

    It is surely not a heavenly process.

    But thanks for sharing and revealing this truth.

     

    June 6, 2015 at 6:29 pm#799038
    carmel
    Participant

     

    That seems to completely justify your delusions.

    Now back to the truth.

    HI Nick,

    OK, WITH PLEASURE!

    Your PREFERENCE is to go back and search the truth. NO?

    SO I WENT BACK TO PAGE 40/41

    AND YOU SAID:

    Yes the Word was with God and was God
    The Word was made flesh [ in Jesus ] and dwelt among us.
    So Jesus Christ is not God

    WITH EVERY RESPECT,

    PURE MADNESS!

     

    THEN I POSTED THE TRUTH FOR YOU HEREUNDER, READ:

    to keep you aware, OR RATHER TO MAKE YOU AWARE :

    Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and effectual,

    TO START WITH THE WORD IS LIVING AND EFFECTUAL! NOT JUST LIKE OUR OWN
    DEAD WORD! CLEAR?

    NOW EXPLAIN IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING HOW GOD’S WORD IS A LIVING THING and EFFECTUAL! BY THE WAY

    IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK? (1)

    and more piercing than any two edged sword;

    NOW EXPLAIN HOW GOD’S WORD PIERCE, IN A WAY MORE THEN ANY TWO EDGED SWORD!

    AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN TERMS!OK? (2)

    and reaching unto the division of the soul and the spirit,

    NOW EXPLAIN IN YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING HOW GOD’S WORD SEPARATES,THE SPIRIT FROM THE SOUL!

    AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK? (3)

    of the joints also and the marrow,

    NOW EXPLAIN HOW GOD’S WORD, SEPARATES THE HUMAN JOINTS FROM THE MARROW!

    AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK? (4)

    and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    NOW EXPLAIN HOW GOD’S OWN WORD DISCERNS THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTS OF THE HEART!

    AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK? (5)

    13Neither is there any creature invisible in his sight:

    NOW EXPLAIN HOW,
    THIS TIME THOUGH NOT GOD’S OWN WORD,

    BUT GOD HIMSELF THROUGH, AND BY THE WORD NEITHER ANY CREATURE IS INVISIBLE IN HIS SIGHT!
    AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK?     (6)

    but all things are naked and open to his eyes,
    NOW EXPLAIN HOW,AGAIN NOT GOD’S OWN WORD,

    BUT GOD HIMSELF THROUGH, AND BY THE WORD CAN MAKE ALL THINGS NAKED AND OPEN TO HIS EYES!

    IN GOD’S OWN TERMS! OK? (7)

    to whom our speech is.

    NOW THE ABOVE S A HEADACHE FOR YOU TO WHOM:

    TO “THE WORD,” JESUS,

    TO GOD,

    OR TO BOTH IN

    JESUS CHRIST?

    SO FROM THE ABOVE IT IS CLEAR THAT THE SPEECH WHICH PAUL DID, DEFINITELY RELATED BOTH TO “THE WORD” OF GOD AND ALSO TO GOD , BUT FOR SURE IN

    JESUS CHRIST NO?

    SINCE PAUL STARTED HIS SPEECH RELATED TO THE DESCRIPTION OF “THE WORD” AND CONCLUDED AND RELATED IT TO GOD!

    IN JESUS CHRIST!

    SO IT IS YOUR TASK NOW TO DEFINE YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE,
     RELATED FIRST TO HEBREWS 4:12:13, WHICH CONFIRMS THAT

    “THE WORD” JESUS’SPIRIT, THE SON OF MAN TO BE DURING CREATION AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR SPIRIT, AND ALSO THE ONLY MEDIATOR AS A DIVINE HUMAN PERSON BECAME

    THE WORD MADE FLESH, JESUS’BODY

    DIED, RESURRECTED, INTEGRATED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL, AND BECAME

    JESUS CHRIST

    JESUS the man “THE WORD MADE FLESH”

    CHRIST Jesus’ soul, THE HOLY SPIRIT

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    THEN DEFINE IN YOUR OWN HUMAN TERMS WHAT THE WORD OF GOD ACTUALLY IS, IN ORDER TO ASSERT THAT

    JESUS AS YOU FALSELY DECLARED: IS NOT GOD!

    SO NICK I WENT BACK, AS YOU SUGGESTED,I PRODUCED THE TRUTH, AND SINCE THEN YOU NEVER MENTIONED ANY STATEMENT WHICH CONFIRMS WHAT IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE TRUTH,SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURES, SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY CONFIRMS THAT THE ABOVE IS THE TRUTH, UNLESS YOU PRODUCE OTHERWISE IN RELATION

    TO ALL THE ABOVE

    ALSO NOTICE THERE ARE 7 PARTICULARS RELATED TO “THE WORD” AND THAT SEVEN REPRESENT

    THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD ALL IN

    JESUS CHRIST

    ALSO, ONLY THE LAST TWO ARE RELATED TO GOD HIMSELF and

    THE REMAINING FIVE ARE RELATED TO THE WORD ! JESUS!

    KEEP THIS IN MINED T REPEAT:

    JESUS,

    NOT JESUS CHRIST

    DUE TO THE FACT THAT JESUS’SPIRIT, THE SON WHO LEFT THE FATHER FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD,REV 13:8, BECAME FLESH AND GLORIFIED AS GOD IN FLESH!

    HERE THIS NOW:

    BUT JESUS’SPIRIT, THE SON, WHO LEFT THE FATHER………..AS I SAID ABOVE,

    IS TILL IN NATURE, IN THE ENTIRE CREATION,AND IN YOU NICK,

    SINCE ALL BY HIM……….

     

    THIS IN ORDER TO BE AWARE,
    ESPECIALLY YOU AND ALL THOSE WHO DON’T BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS
    GOD IN FLESH

    THAT “THE WORD” INTEGRATED WITH

    THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BECAME

     

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    June 6, 2015 at 6:38 pm#799039
    carmel
    Participant

    No you are deceived.

    It is surely not a heavenly process.

    But thanks for sharing and revealing this truth.

    Nick,

    It’s no use,

    WITH EVERY RESPECT:

    We over here have a saying which go like this:

    DONKEY’S BRAYS NEVER ENTERED HEAVEN,

    AND THIS APPLIES TO YOU, SINCE YOU DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENTS BY USING THE RESPECTIVE SCRIPTURES,WITH YOUR DEFINITIONS IN ORDER TO CONTRADICTS ME!

    ENJOY:

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    June 6, 2015 at 11:08 pm#799050
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    You do not speak the language of scripture

    but gobbledegook

     

    June 7, 2015 at 9:52 am#799107
    carmel
    Participant

     

    You do not speak the language of scripture

    but gobbledegook

    Nick,

    WHEN CAN WE HEAR YOUR

    LANGUAGE OF SCRIPTURE

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    June 7, 2015 at 9:54 am#799108
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    Do you accept 2cor 5.19 as truth or have your gnostic ideas surpassed scripture?

    June 7, 2015 at 10:06 am#799109
    carmel
    Participant

     

    Do you accept 2cor 5.19 as truth or have your gnostic ideas surpassed scripture?

    Nick,

    Post your definition of that scripture:

    THEN IT WILL BE the Holy Spirit TURN TO CONTRADICT YOU!

    John 16:8 And when he comes,

    he will correct the world

    concerning sin and

    concerning righteousness and

    concerning judgment;”

     

    SINCE YOU ARE AWARE OF MY

    language of scripture :

    gobbledegook

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    June 7, 2015 at 10:33 am#799110
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    So you are interested in the UNDERSTANDING of the scripture and not the words themselves??

    The words are spirit and life but you prefer the human reflections?

     

    June 10, 2015 at 7:34 pm#799365
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @NNickHassan

    Are you just flesh?

    No, but then I am not the one saying that Jesus is just flesh and Christ is the spirit.

    Your teaching is confusing and I am not sure whether you are sticking to your stance or have moved around and changed your mind as you see fit.

    God made Jesus both Lord and Christ. He is the Word that became flesh. He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, served his God, died for our sins, rose from the dead, was taken up by God, to be back in the glory that he had with the Father before the Cosmos. Even Steven testified that he saw Jesus at God’s right side.

    But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.

    June 10, 2015 at 8:41 pm#799369
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    WHERE did I say Jesus was just flesh?

    But I do say flesh is not from heaven but from earth.

    The WORD is from heaven and was made flesh in the SOUL of Jesus

    June 16, 2015 at 4:00 pm#799677
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Perhaps your words are confusing. The impression I was getting from your teaching was that Jesus was the man and Christ is the Word of God or God.

    If man is flesh and made from the earth and if we know that “Cursed is the one who trusts in man”,  were people cursed for trusting in Jesus before his baptism?

    Perhaps you could clearly state what it is you have been teaching. If I cannot understand what you are saying regarding Jesus and Christ, then perhaps others are just as confused.

    I haven’t got to the bottom of your Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Christ differences yet. Perhaps you could list them for us? That would be helpful and may clear up any misconceptions.

    June 18, 2015 at 8:05 am#799785
    DavidL
    Participant

    yes…and your teaching about the Spirit – which seems similar to JW doctrine…

    June 18, 2015 at 8:29 am#799788
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    The obedient man Jesus was anointed from above with the Holy Spirit.

    Thence the vessel was led by the Spirit.

    Jesus Christ, the Word.

    June 18, 2015 at 2:58 pm#799827
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So before the anointing he was not led by the Spirit?

    And Jesus is the Word, but only after baptism?

    June 18, 2015 at 3:55 pm#799834
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Yes

     

    Before his anointing he was just a son of Adam, body soul and human spirit. Conceived of God in Mary and born of a woman, Mary. Acts 10.38 Job 25

    He was anointed from above by the Holy Spirit at the Jordan receiving in that one Holy Spirit the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of truth from the Father.

    The Spirit of Christ is in the prophets [1 peter 1.11]and he was a prophet, in fact the Great Prophet spoken of by Moses and also quoted by Peter in Acts 3.22.

    The Word [the Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the Son] that was with God, was made flesh and dwelt among us. John spoke of the Word as Jesus Christ in 1 jn 1.

    Jesus Christ [the anointed] promised those who believe in him that they too would be given the Counsellor and another Counsellor so we can follow him.

     

     

    June 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm#799842
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Romans 8:14
    “All who are led by the Spirit of God are sons/children of God.”

    So he became a son of God at the baptism then?

    And what was he before the baptism if not a or the son or child of God?

     

     

    June 19, 2015 at 6:47 am#799860
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    before his baptism he was a man, a son of God and Mary by conception.

    But he became a unique son of God by anointing and then by obeying that anointing.

     

    And for us.

    Jn1

    “But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to BECOME children of God, even to those who believe in his name”

    October 24, 2016 at 3:51 am#817620
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    This video does a good job at refuting the interpretation of some of these so-called Trinity proof verses.

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