Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)

Hi Jammin,
What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

I'd like to know what they are as well. …well Jammin, what are they?

form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

What are DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

May 11, 2012 at 5:34 am#297375

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,14:59)

Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,03:56)

Hi all,

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word ( JESUS) be, which shall go forth from my mouth:(EMANATED AS A SPIRIT) IT SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME VOID, but it shall do whatsoever I please, and shall PROSPER in the things for which I sent it.( THEREFORE CREATED ALL,GLORIFIED, ESTABLISHED GOD'S SPIRIT WITHIN OUR CREATION THROUGH HIS BODY IN THE CHURCH,AND HE IS THE HEAD,AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD.THEREFORE JESUS IS GOD )

peace and love in Jesus.
Charles

Hi Charles,

You believe Isa 55:11 is about Jesus,
where YHVH speaks of “His word”?
I ask for clarification purposes.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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You believe Isa 55:11 is about Jesus

Edj,

Definitely sure of.

THERE'S ONLY ONE WORD OF GOD. AND THAT IS JESUS.

THAT WORD WAS MADE FLESH.

WAS MADE FLESH TO ESTABLISH GOD'S ATTRIBUTES VISIBLY.

WAS MADE FLESH TO REMAIN FLESH FOR EVER SINCE GOD IS ETERNAL AND JESUS IS ETERNAL LIFE,AND WHATEVER HE DOES IS ALWAYS ETERNAL

WAS MADE FLESH TO MAKE US ETERNAL SINCE WE ARE FLESH.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) TO BE AMONG US ETERNALLY VISIBLE.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) TO JUDGE US ACCORDINGLY THROUGH NATURE, HIS SUBSTANCE.

WAS MADE FLESH (MATTER) IN ORDER THAT ALL COULD BE DONE IN HIS NAME NO MATTER WHAT,EXCEPT SINS,

SINCE HE WAS LIFTED UP AND ALL THINGS WENT ONTO HIMSELF.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) NOT TO HARM A SINGLE ENTITY,ELEMENT, IN THIS WORLD SINCE IT IS HIS SUBSTANCE,

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS.

CHARLES

May 11, 2012 at 5:44 am#297378

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Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,16:34)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,14:59)

Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,03:56)

Hi all,

peace and love in Jesus.
Charles

Hi Charles,

You believe Isa 55:11 is about Jesus,
where YHVH speaks of “His word”?
I ask for clarification purposes.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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You believe Isa 55:11 is about Jesus

Edj,

Definitely sure of.

THERE'S ONLY ONE WORD OF GOD. AND THAT IS JESUS.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS.
CHARLES

Hi cHARLE s,

Is the bible not “The Word” of GOD? …is the bible Jesus?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 5:46 am#297379

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Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,16:34)

THAT WORD WAS MADE FLESH.

WAS MADE FLESH TO ESTABLISH GOD'S ATTRIBUTES VISIBLY.

WAS MADE FLESH TO REMAIN FLESH FOR EVER SINCE GOD IS ETERNAL AND JESUS IS ETERNAL LIFE,AND WHATEVER HE DOES IS ALWAYS ETERNAL

WAS MADE FLESH TO MAKE US ETERNAL SINCE WE ARE FLESH.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) TO BE AMONG US ETERNALLY VISIBLE.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) TO JUDGE US ACCORDINGLY THROUGH NATURE, HIS SUBSTANCE.

WAS MADE FLESH (MATTER) IN ORDER THAT ALL COULD BE DONE IN HIS NAME NO MATTER WHAT,EXCEPT SINS,

SINCE HE WAS LIFTED UP AND ALL THINGS WENT ONTO HIMSELF.

WAS MADE FLESH(MATTER) NOT TO HARM A SINGLE ENTITY,ELEMENT, IN THIS WORLD SINCE IT IS HIS SUBSTANCE,

Hi Charles. (this is all point #1)

Three big logic fallacies that I see presented here:

1. Opinions: opinions are presented as evidence.
2. Scenarios: scenarios are presented as proof.
3. Consensus: consensus is seen as conformation. (Link to thread)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 7:53 am#297398

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Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:42)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)

Hi Jammin,
What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

I'd like to know what they are as well. …well Jammin, what are they?

form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

What are DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

his place in heaven
The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

May 11, 2012 at 8:16 am#297403

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Hi Jammin,
Angels are in heaven.
Do they have DIVINE PRIVILEGES too?
If he lost his DIVINE GLORY was he still DIVINE?

May 11, 2012 at 8:46 am#297410

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Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,18:53)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:42)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)

Hi Jammin,
What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

I'd like to know what they are as well. …well Jammin, what are they?

form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

What are DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

his place in heaven
The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

Hi Jammin,

Does “GOD” have this divine privilege as well?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 8:52 am#297411

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,19:16)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,18:53)

The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

Hi Jammin,
Angels are in heaven.
Do they have DIVINE PRIVILEGES too?

Hi Nick,

I believe they do. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 9:28 am#297414

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Hi ED,
I am sure you have your personal reasons.
However what is revealed is truly relevant.

Col2.8

May 11, 2012 at 9:58 am#297419

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,20:28)

Hi ED,
I am sure you have your personal reasons.
However what is revealed is truly relevant.

Col2.8

Hi Nick, what philosophy are you referring to?

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Col 2:8)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 10:16 am#297428

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,19:16)

Hi Jammin,
Angels are in heaven.
Do they have DIVINE PRIVILEGES too?
If he lost his DIVINE GLORY was he still DIVINE?

they(angels) do not have the nature or form of GOD (possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God)

May 11, 2012 at 10:18 am#297429

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,19:16)

Hi Jammin,
Angels are in heaven.
Do they have DIVINE PRIVILEGES too?
If he lost his DIVINE GLORY was he still DIVINE?

yes of course he is still divine.

we are talking about the glory

May 11, 2012 at 10:19 am#297430

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Hi Jammin,
Jesus Christ WAS in the form of God.

May 11, 2012 at 10:22 am#297431

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Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:46)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,18:53)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:42)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)

Hi Jammin,
What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

I'd like to know what they are as well. …well Jammin, what are they?

form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

What are DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

his place in heaven
The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

Hi Jammin,

Does “GOD” have this divine privilege as well?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

God the father is in heaven. he did not became flesh. but the son, he made himself nothing (of all privileges and rightful dignity). he became flesh and dwelt among us

May 11, 2012 at 10:27 am#297433

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,21:19)

Hi Jammin,
Jesus Christ WAS in the form of God.

yes before he became flesh.

christ is truly GOD

May 11, 2012 at 10:40 am#297438

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Hi Jammin,
So to you God does not exist except as a generic FORM

May 11, 2012 at 10:41 am#297440

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Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,21:22)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:46)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,18:53)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:42)

Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)

Hi Jammin,
What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

I'd like to know what they are as well. …well Jammin, what are they?

form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

What are DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

his place in heaven
The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

Hi Jammin,

Does “GOD” have this divine privilege as well?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

God the father is in heaven. he did not became flesh. but the son, he made himself nothing (of all privileges and rightful dignity). he became flesh and dwelt among us

Hi Jammin, why is it SOOO hard to get you to answer questions?

Does “GOD” have the privilege of becoming human? <– please answer THIS QUESTION

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 11, 2012 at 10:43 am#297441

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the son (who is GOD by nature) became flesh

May 11, 2012 at 10:44 am#297443

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,21:40)

Hi Jammin,
So to you God does not exist except as a generic FORM

the bible says God manifested in the flesh. not the father but the son (cristo)

May 11, 2012 at 10:45 am#297446