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Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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  • April 9, 2012 at 4:50 am#291004
    Ed J
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    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,09:04)
    Hi Charles,
    Jesus was not a god.

    We can follow him into the same relationship he had with his and our God.
    God indwelled him fully and can also indwell us in him.


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    God indwelled him fully and can also indwell us in him

    Nick,

    you are contradicting yourself.

    YOU SAID:God indwelled him fully

    God would only indwell in a visisble substance equal to him in every sense.

    If Jesus carried Almighty God ,WITHIN HIS SOUL he was only a flesh CONTAINER.

    The spirit gives life the flesh counts for nothing.

    We judge according to the flesh,and our judge is corrupted.

    If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.JESUS GLORIFIED THE FATHER IN HIS PRESENCE

    The Father through the Holy Spirit was one with the Son Jesus, the Father spoke through Jesus.

    You people are insulting God Almighty by limiting His power, and are stating THAT GOD IS NOT CAPABLE TO BECOME MAN.

    THIS IS SATAN'S BELEIFE

    THIS IS THE REASON THAT THE ANTICHRIST HAS TO COME AND WOULD BE DESTROYED IN FRONT OF ALL LVING CREATURES TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD ALMGHTY IN FLESH, BECAUSE HE WOULD COME NOT AS MERCY,BUT AS JUDGE IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS THE TRUE GOD

    CHARLES


    Hi Charles, is this what you mean?

    2Pt.1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
    that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having
    escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 4:57 am#291007
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)
    If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.


    Scripture Please?

    April 9, 2012 at 5:09 am#291008
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,03:15)
    THE MOTHER OF GOD IN JESUS


    Hi Charles,

    Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 5:15 am#291013
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:50)

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,09:04)
    Hi Charles,
    Jesus was not a god.

    We can follow him into the same relationship he had with his and our God.
    God indwelled him fully and can also indwell us in him.


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    God indwelled him fully and can also indwell us in him

    Nick,

    you are contradicting yourself.

    YOU SAID:God indwelled him fully

    God would only indwell in a visisble substance equal to him in every sense.

    If Jesus carried Almighty God ,WITHIN HIS SOUL he was only a flesh CONTAINER.

    The spirit gives life the flesh counts for nothing.

    We judge according to the flesh,and our judge is corrupted.

    If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.JESUS GLORIFIED THE FATHER IN HIS PRESENCE

    The Father through the Holy Spirit was one with the Son Jesus, the Father spoke through Jesus.

    You people are insulting God Almighty by limiting His power, and are stating THAT GOD IS NOT CAPABLE TO BECOME MAN.

    THIS IS SATAN'S BELEIFE

    THIS IS THE REASON THAT THE ANTICHRIST HAS TO COME AND WOULD BE DESTROYED IN FRONT OF ALL LVING CREATURES TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD ALMGHTY IN FLESH, BECAUSE HE WOULD COME NOT AS MERCY,BUT AS JUDGE IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS THE TRUE GOD

    CHARLES


    Hi Charles, is this what you mean?

    2Pt.1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
    that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having
    escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Charles, would that then be a fulfillment of?

    “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being
    in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:” (Phil 2:5-6)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 5:18 am#291014
    Ed J
    Participant

    Deleted duplicate post.

    April 9, 2012 at 5:23 am#291015
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Jn3
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God;for He gives the Spirit without measure”
    Col1
    “For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in him”

    Now the Son gives us a share of his Spirit so that God may be in all.
    Jn17
    “that they may be in us”

    April 9, 2012 at 5:26 am#291017
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2012,11:25)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,13:29)
    Hi MB,
    Since Jesus Christ told us scripture calls men gods and Paul told us there were gods on earth [1Cor8]
    how would this help you plan to somehow show the man Jesus of Nazareth was a heavenly god in a previous life?r


    That doesn't answer my question, Nick.  Here it is again:

    What did Jehovah mean when He foretold that Jesus would be called a mighty god?


    Hi Mike,

    That could be referring to the trinity doctrine?

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 5:31 am#291020
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,16:23)
    Hi Ed,
    Jn3
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God;for He gives the Spirit without measure“

    Now the Son gives us a share of his Spirit so that God may be in all.


    Hi Nick,

    These two statements appear to be in contradiction with each other?    …please explain?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 5:51 am#291027
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    The head of the body gives of the Spirit to us the members of the body.
    jn 14.18

    jn 14.23

    jn 15.1-7

    jn 16 19-22

    jn 17.1-3

    jn 17.14-23

    1cor 12

    eph 4.4

    eph 4 10-16

    1cor 2.12

    2cor 5.5

    etc etc

    April 9, 2012 at 6:05 am#291034
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,23:51)
    Hi Ed,
    The head of the body gives of the Spirit to us the members of the body.
    jn 14.18

    jn 14.23

    jn 15.1-7

    jn 16 19-22

    jn 17.1-3

    jn 17.14-23

    1cor 12

    eph 4.4

    eph 4 10-16

    1cor 2.12

    2cor 5.5

    etc etc


    N

    How is it given???

    April 9, 2012 at 6:09 am#291035
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    At the Jordan from God and since then from the Son of God Jesus Christ directly or through the laying on of hands of his brothers.

    April 9, 2012 at 7:04 am#291043
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,16:31)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,16:23)
    Hi Ed,
    Jn3
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God;for He gives the Spirit without measure“

    Now the Son gives us a share of his Spirit so that God may be in all.


    Hi Nick,

    These two statements appear to be in contradiction with each other?    …please explain?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “As my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.” (John 20:21)

    April 9, 2012 at 7:05 am#291044
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,18:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,16:31)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,16:23)
    Hi Ed,
    Jn3
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God;for He gives the Spirit without measure“

    Now the Son gives us a share of his Spirit so that God may be in all.


    Hi Nick,

    These two statements appear to be in contradiction with each other?    …please explain?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “As my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.” (John 20:21)


    HI Nick.

    Are you going to explain what you meant now?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 7:09 am#291045
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,17:09)
    Hi T,
    At the Jordan from God and since then from the Son of God Jesus Christ directly or through the laying on of hands of his brothers.


    Hi Nick,

    Acts 10:44-45 While Peter yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all them which heard the word.
    And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter,
    because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the HolySpirit.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 9:40 am#291062
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Yes and also with Paul, Jesus Christ worked directly.
    But mostly by the laying on of hands the gift of the Spirit was given[ACTS]

    April 9, 2012 at 10:01 am#291072
    jammin
    Participant

    Christ is truly GOD.

    the topic has been answered already.

    April 9, 2012 at 11:46 am#291095
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,16:23)
    Hi Ed,
    Jn3
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God;for He gives the Spirit without measure“

    Now the Son gives us a share of his Spirit so that God may be in all.


    Hi Nick, these two statements appear to be in contradiction with each other?

    Do you mean “share” God's spirit with us?

    or

    Only give a portion of God's spirit?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm#291116
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,16:09)

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,03:15)
    THE MOTHER OF GOD IN JESUS


    Hi Charles,

    Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    Edj

    I already answered that

    Mary is the Mother of God in Jesus' body.

    Mary could only give birth to the flesh body as human,

    SON OF MAN

    GOD ALMIGHTY,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT IN JESUS' SOUL OFFICIALLY ON BAPTISM,CONFIRMED THAT JESUS POSSESSES HIS FULL POWER .

    JESUS ALWAYS HAD THIS KIND OF POWER BUT IT WASN'T YET DECLARED THEREFORE WAS NOT YET IN FULL FUNCTION,NOT BEFORE HE ELIMINATES SATAN FROM WITHN HIS SOUL,SINCE HE WAS BORN IN ALL THINGS LIKE HUMANS IN HIS TIME.

    THIS IS CONFIRMED IN THE WEDDING OF CANA,WHEN HE SAID THAT IT IS NOT YET HIS TIME, BUT THROUGH MARY'S SUGGESTION,HE USED HIS POWER,THEREFORE HE ALWYS HAD IT.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    April 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm#291120
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 10 2012,01:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,16:09)

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,03:15)
    THE MOTHER OF GOD IN JESUS


    Hi Charles,

    Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    Mary is the Mother of God in Jesus' body.


    Hi Charles,

    So your answer is:  “yes”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm#291125
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:57)

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)
    If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.


    Scripture Please?


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     If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus
    Scripture Please?          

    1 JOHN 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.  

    Edj,

    Now reflect on the above;

    Christ means anointed,and Jesus was born anoited through the Father's Spirit in Him,therefore who denies that Jesus is not God he deinies the Father.

    Matthew 10:33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    And in your opinion what Jesus is referring??

    What is it that we shouldn't deny in Him???

    Isn't it that His Father's Spirit is within Him??

    DO YOU DENY THAT THE FATHER'S SPIRIT WAS,and still is IN JESUS??

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES.

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