Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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Hi Jammin,
False teachers sometimes rely on one misunderstood verse and cannot grasp the whole.
Do you agree?

April 5, 2012 at 3:05 am#290063

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it can be determined so easily. for example, edj is using eph 6.17 to prove that the WORD in john 1.1 is the HS.

if you look this verse to the other versions, if refers to the teaching of GOD.

April 5, 2012 at 3:24 am#290068

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Hi Jasmmin,
Yes the sword of the Spirit is the powerful rhema.
Peter and Paul used scripture a lot in their preaching and it induced an immediate result.

April 5, 2012 at 4:29 am#290075

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Hi Nick,

Jesus also spoke the “Rhema” of God against satan
the devil to dispel his attacks. (see Luke 4:2-8)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 6:15 am#290089

carmel

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,08:27)

Quote (carmel @ April 05 2012,07:06)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,09:07)

Hi C,
The vineyard workers who only worked for an hour got the same wage.

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The vineyard workers who only worked for an hour got the same wage.

Nick,

The vineyard workers are symbolically humans who originated through earth,therefore rebellious angels transformed in matter through creation.

The Fathers,the prophets,and the saints like John are angels who came down from heaven to accomplish a mission within the process of the revival of the rebellious angels

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

Hi C,
So you say but you are on your own.

Should you proclaim your speculations as valid?
Are you qualified to do so?

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Should you proclaim your speculations as valid?
Are you qualified to do so?

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy
sight.

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

April 5, 2012 at 6:29 am#290094

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the thread has been answered. Christ is truly GOD.

this can now be locked

April 5, 2012 at 6:30 am#290095

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HI Jammin,
The Word has become the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

April 5, 2012 at 6:34 am#290100

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where can i read that? LOL

the WORD is the name of the son of GOD!

that's what the bible says.

btw, you are out of the topic again.

pls continue this in the john 1.1 thread

April 5, 2012 at 7:10 am#290110

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Hi Jammin,
The Word became flesh.
Jesus of Nazareth was the flesh man.
The Jordan saw the fusion of the Word with him to form Jesus Christ

April 5, 2012 at 7:41 am#290115

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Christ became flesh and was given the name JESUS

that's what the bible says.

make your own version to support your man made doctine LOL

April 5, 2012 at 7:51 am#290116

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Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,17:29)

the thread has been answered. Christ is truly GOD.

this can now be locked

Hi Jammin,

I'm not aware of this forum “locking” any thread.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 10:19 am#290118

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Hi Jammin,
Jesus already was named when he became the Christ

April 5, 2012 at 11:58 am#290124

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on the eight day he was named JESUS. luke 2.21
Luke 2:21

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
21Eight days later Jesus' parents did for him what the Law of Moses commands. [a] And they named him Jesus, just as the angel had told Mary when he promised she would have a baby.

but before he became flesh, he is already the Christ the son of GOD.

he was with GOD and truly GOD by nature.
he is called the WORD

John 1:1

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
John 1
The Word of Life
1In the beginning was the one

who is called the Word.

The Word was with God

and was truly God.

New Life Version (NLV)
John 1
Christ Lived Before the World Was Made
1 The Word (Christ) was in the beginning. The Word was with God. The Word was God.

believe it or not

now, make your own version to support your man made doctrine LOL

April 5, 2012 at 7:30 pm#290141

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Hi Jammin,
Yes the Word was before Jesus's conception.
The Word was with God and was God.

The Word proceeded from and came from God
Jn.8

The Word, the bread of heaven, came down from heaven to do the will of the Father.
Jn6

The Word was from above and was not of this world.
Jn8

The Word was sanctified and sent into the world
Jn10

The Word was a servant to his Master, God.
Jn13

The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets before being in Jesus.

1Peter 1

April 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm#290151

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Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,22:58)

on the eight day he was named JESUS. luke 2.21
Luke 2:21

but before he became flesh, he is already the Christ the son of GOD.

he was with GOD and truly GOD by nature.
he is called the WORD

John 1:1

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
John 1
The Word of Life
1In the beginning was the one

who is called the Word.

The Word was with God

and was truly God.

New Life Version (NLV)
John 1
Christ Lived Before the World Was Made
1 The Word (Christ) was in the beginning. The Word was with God. The Word was God.

believe it or not

now, make your own version to support your man made doctrine LOL

Hi Jammin,

We all know that doctored or altered versions have been made to
promote the ideas of the systems of religion and traditions of men.
The question is: why do you consider them to have any credence?

Then you suggest that others do the same,
do their words then become Scripture too?
Your logic here is faulty, and so to is 'your'
understanding of the Scriptures themselves.

I suggest that you learn to check out what
the Hebrew and Greek actually say instead.
There's many here that can help you do that.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 6, 2012 at 12:28 am#290180

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edj,

you must first read your opinion. but if you cant read it, then make your own version LOL
you just cant accpt the truth bec your doctrine is not suppported by the bible. you are just jumping to the other verses to promote your wrong ideas. well, sorry but your man made doctrine is very obvious. better luck next time LOL

April 6, 2012 at 12:45 am#290186

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Hi Jammin,
You choose versions adulterated by men.
Does that not mean you have your own doctrine?

April 6, 2012 at 12:55 am#290190

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2012,11:45)

Hi Jammin,
You choose versions adulterated by men.
Does that not mean you have your own doctrine?

Hi Nick, apparently he is too blind to see this FACT!

Evidenced by his very own words…

Quote (jammin @ April 06 2012,11:28)

you must first read your opinion.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 6, 2012 at 1:23 am#290203

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edj,

how can i believe you and your company if you cant read your opinion? you are just dreaming…i do not belong to the dreamer group. i want what is wrtten.

your doctrine is not from GOD but from men.

April 6, 2012 at 1:54 am#290233