DavidYou say…Quote First, my argument wasn't really about the name of God.  It was about a larger issue, the name of God being one example.  Let me simplify for you:The NIV should have done things a certain way, as the sectretary said(with respet to God's name.)  They chose not to because they wanted to be popular and a lot of money was invo…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 12 2007,17:22)Quote (glen @ May 07 2007,16:37)I need help finding a drug addiction, please pray forDid anyone notice that Glen wrote he needs help “finding” a drug addiction? OH MY!!You might be right.I assumed he meant…I need help finding a drug addiction “clinic”, please pray for.Well I guess if he didnt want prayer…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 12 2007,11:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 11 2007,07:30)Question for the Arian followers, (those who do not have a Trinitarian view).How do you reconcile the folowing scriptures from an Arian view?Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,08:49)Hi W,You say”When someone accepts Jesus into their heart does the Spirit of Christ or God or the Comforter come to live in them?” Where is such an action shown in Acts or in scripture anywhere?NHApparantly you didnt read my post very well.If you look close you will see that those scriptures bear out that “The…[Read more]

Quote Again, your words.  Why don't we stop playing this “your words” game and just agree to criticize the validity of each other's inferences, ok?  Back to the passage, Isaiah 43 doesn't say God is talking about a certain class of gods that's bad, the ones it's not ok to follow, as opposed to those good gods, the ones the people should follow.  …[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 12 2007,17:29)Quote (martian @ May 10 2007,10:32)Oh yeah,I was warned about you. They said your beliefs were wacked!!!  You should not try so hard to prove them right!Ad hominemIs 1:18Nice word. Thanks!This seems to be what happens a lot around here.An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ May 12 2007,07:56)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ May 11 2007,01:19)Martian,To whom are you speaking?Sorry, I was speaking of worshippingjesusmartianAfter seeing your post on Jn 1:1, I wouldnt be to proud if I were you.By the way, please enlighten me on my teachings when they are wrong. I would love honest dialoge with you.Anyway, I wish you…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 12 2007,15:16)Quote (martian @ May 12 2007,11:38)As has been stated before, by what authority do you or anyone else make the term “word” equal Jesus when over 300 other times in scripture the word means statement/speach/plan. You are reading your doctrine into the term instead of using proper principles of line upon line…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 11 2007,17:55)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,17:41)The finger is very adept at many things but incompetant to do many others such as walking, speaking, hearing.The Holy Spirit IS adept at hearing and speaking apparently…John 16:13-1413″But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ May 11 2007,17:49)Hi WJ.     Have you checked with the Interlinear Scripture Analyser, it gives the original Greek scripture and letters, translated to English.  See “scripture4all.org”  I believe this to be very accurately translated, the authorized version is written to compare.Blessings.COI have.I also have an Greek and Heb…[Read more]

DavidAlso, I expect at this point you will slam this thread with a barrage of JWs propaganda. This is usually your tactic about now.

David You say…Quote As far as I am concerned it is undisputed. . . .except for the few antagonist or random scholars scattered here and there who “dispute” John 1:1–WJI contended that you had troubles with the word “undisputed.”You responded: God forbid I should have to defend that I know what undisputed means.  Well, I'm not sure you…[Read more]

David you say…Quote So 49 wouldn't do.  That last 50th scholar must be very important to you.  So, one translator can make all the difference?  I'm really not sure this is how this works.  All 50 scholars looking at one verse.  Maybe they break it in pieces, the Bible.  Maybe only one scholar translated all of John, with oversight from other s…[Read more]

David you say…Quote I THINK THAT THE ACTUAL GREEK SHOULD BE THE DETERMINING FACTOR and not money or popularity or tradition or following the majority, etc.  You may hold to these things if you like.  I do not.I agree. But do you think that the NWT can compare in translation to the over 600 real scholars that agreed on the text Jn 1:1 and its i…[Read more]

David you say…Quote Back to the NIVI think, a sure way to throw that $2,500,000 “down the drain” would for them to have translated John 1:1 any other way than the most popular way.  Popularity and following the majority seems to not only being something you blindly subscribe to, but paradoxically, it seems to be something the majority that you cl…[Read more]

David you say…Quote EDWIN H. PALMER, Th.D., Executive Secretary for the NIV's committee wrote on why they didn't do some things they “should have,” specifically, leaving God's name out of this “credible translation” (he he) some 7000 times!Notice his words:”Here is why we did not: You are right that Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,13:48)Hi W, So Jesus is not your Lord?Phil 2:11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.NHJesus is My Lord and My God. Other wise I would be breaking the first commandment.Romans 14:11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 11 2007,17:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 11 2007,07:09)Quote WJ Now watch and see what Paul said.. Read. Romans.8:9-10..Romans 8:9-10 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,12:46)Hi W, He is a man. You can follow a man.NHI thought we are supposed to follow God.”Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and *him only shalt thou serve*.”So you are trying to follow a man who is in heaven?What about following God who lives in us?

Quote (david @ May 11 2007,10:00)Quote Ok the NWT stands alone with all the other non credible translations!Wow.  So as I said or asked before:Quote WJ, PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF THE CREDIBLE TRANSLATIONS AND ONE OF THE NON-CREDIBLE TRANSLATIONS.THANKYOU. You seem to have down which are the “credible” translations.  I was wondering if you have a l…[Read more]