Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 13 2009,02:06)Hi CA,Implication is individual and and logic too  and neither have never been any form of proof The Spirit proceeds from God.NHSo what does it tell you about the Spirit then?And now that the Spirit is subservient to Jesus, what does that tell you about Jesus?WJ

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 13 2009,01:59)Excellent post. And thanks for linking that great website!Hi PaulThanks! When I found this sight I was reminded how a while back you had purchased AT Robertsons book! But now it is so much easier to search his work on line.I still want to get his book for my library though! Blessing Keith

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Nov. 13 2009,01:56)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 12 2009,13:10)The New Testament “texts reveal 'elohim's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of 'elohim.”Ref: New Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 14, by editorial staff at the Catholic University of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 12 2009,23:33)This is Paul defending the Gospel as was given to him pertaining preaching to the heathens because he was no approved by Peter and the other disciples to preach what he was preaching and if Paul is right here your refusing or willfullness to not share the word of God with me or anyone else is PREACHING…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2009,16:25)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2009,21:58)I am not fond of segregation.  It has its uses if a certain group needs protection but it can also lead to the us vs. them mentality.   I think it wise if we avoid such and instead try to encourage a student of the Messiah outlook with each of us perhaps at different steps on the t…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 12 2009,06:22)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2009,16:51)I see no reason why not to let a Muslim post on these forums.  I am not familiar enough with the Koran to know how it differs from the usual cannon of the Western Christian religions.  It would be approximately equivalent to quoting from the book of Enoch.It would be m…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 11 2009,14:30)The resurrection of Jesus was about His coming out of hades (Acts chapters 2 & 13). Paul said that He was raised up from the “abyss” (Rom. 10:7). His body was put in a tomb. It did not come out of the abyss. It was Jesus Himself that was raised up from the abyss. After He was raised from the abyss He appeared…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 11 2009,14:30)Worshippingjesus said:Quote JackNo Spin!It is you that not to long ago went after David for claiming that Jesus resurection was simply a spiritual one.Now you claim that our bodies will not be resurected and made like unto his glorious body.Jesus is the firstfuits of the resurection. You are denying the…[Read more]

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Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,14:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 09 2009,17:36)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 08 2009,22:10)Paul said that those who were alive and remained AFTERWARDS would be caught up. John was caught up therefore when he died. He acquired his immortal body from heaven (2 Corinthians 4:16-5:5). His earthly body was eaten by the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 11 2009,16:22)And then there are those of us who can sing this song and be in awe of the event and the babe in the manger.http://I first heard this song in church and by that time I had my fourth baby boy.  I was overcome with emotion because I could so relate to Mary as a mother of her firstborn son.  I wondered about t…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 11 2009,12:04)Worshippingjesus said:Quote Take note everyone, that Preterism takes away our blessed hope of the resurrection!while we wait for “the blessed hope”–the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13Keith,I thought you wanted me to stop with the “spin.” Your statement above is wrong…[Read more]

JackIf you keep up the spin then I will drop this dialogue with you.These are your words highlights mine…Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 29 2009,17:48)”IF THEY WERE PERSECUTED UNTO DEATH AND DID NOT SEE THE LORD COME BACK TO GIVE THEM REST **THEN PAUL WAS A LIAR**”. Paul assured them that they would receive their rest “when the Lord Jesus is rev…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2009,02:27)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,00:55)For CON who claims to be Arian.He is most likely mistaken.  Arius believed in the preexistence of Jesus though he also believed Jesus was created.  Your beliefs are probably closer to Arius' that Constitutionalists are.  He should look to the Jewish Christians.From what I…[Read more]

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves“. Matt 7:15

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,17:17)The “saints” He came with were His holy angels:“For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.” Matt. 16:27thinkerYou should know you cannot slip this one by me! Stop with all the spin bro!Jack, the scripture you quote says the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,16:56)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Its because he did not come and their rest was in Christ! The promise was for all those in Christ Jesus!So you're saying that the statement “when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven” may be interpreted metaphorically then?  It simply means “rest IN Christ?”May non-futurists…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,17:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 10 2009,08:15)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,13:45)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Because the clouds are the place of meeting just as a general when he calls his warriors to war their meeting place is at base.Keith,Not likely. The Greek “en” may also be rendered “through”. They…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,13:45)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Because the clouds are the place of meeting just as a general when he calls his warriors to war their meeting place is at base.Keith,Not likely. The Greek “en” may also be rendered “through”. They go upward through the clouds to meet Him. What war? You have said that Peter teaches…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 09 2009,13:47)Ad Homien,Try putting up my whole statement, before you ad hoc and toss implications around that I may or may not have said.Your even misquoting my logic.To the cornfield with you.Well then!Where is your defense?WJ