Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,08:56)And all the lexicons and scholars agree that one of the meanings of “spiritual” is “belonging to a spirit”.So why single ME out?  Why, Mikeboll, because I can more easily forgive the others their errors of understanding, but you stand head and shoulders above the rest for (possibly) misleading yourself and…[Read more]

Mikeboll, if I post something in this thread, please don't feel that you need to respond to it.  If you disagree with the content then just ignore it – no need to make it a competition of wiills.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,09:47)Toby,I'm okay with you having a belief that differs from mine.  You'll never change my mind about this subject, and I don't suppose I'll ever change yours.  We simply disagree, so let's just leave it at that, okay?Hi Mikeboll.Once again I agree with you that we differ in opinions on this issue.  I was only re…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.The post from t8 has that error that you made of changing 'Natural Body' to 'Physical Body' when there is no text saying 'Physical Body'.I see that Gene used the same word 'Physical' in his post not realising the error.Once the term 'Physical' is innocently accepted it can change the context of the discussion.The word used is Natural.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,15:37)Jesus has a body and as such he is the visible image of the invisible God in bodily form.T8…T8… Please read what you just wrote… 'In Bodily form'!!Come on, dude… How do you say that God has a Body and Jesus is the the visible image of that Body … In Bodily Form…!!That's not even proper English…!!Now, if…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,15:37)Angels are ministering spirits and I think that they have bodies. After all they can be seen. Hi T8.T8, what is the definition of 'Spirit'?T8, the topic question includes '…In Heaven…'Mikeboll has limited it to 'In Heaven'.You are of course, entitled to what you think.  The problem is when someone tries to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,15:37)I really do not understand why this is such a hot topic. Maybe this is a battle of wills motivated by pride and the subject is only secondary.Yes, T8, you got that one spot on.  People boast about posting for the last xxx posts, but cannot produce one shred of evidence for their claim.  Instead, they offer only s…[Read more]

Dear All,Can we get back the thread topic – or have we all reached a conclusion?Has it been shown that a Spirit (Angel, Jesus, God) has a Body in Heaven – in the Spirit Realm?My conclusion is that: After 480+ pages, not even the most staunch supporters of 'Spirits having bodies' can show even the least bit of credible evidence (I put it to you all…[Read more]

Hi Gene.It is certainly true that the disciples 'thought' they were seeing a Spirit – but were wrong. Jesus Christ told them so and proved it to them.If someone is trying to say otherwise, then it may be wise to be cautious how you dialogue with them, as they are clearly speaking directly against the words of Jesus Christ.However, it was not…[Read more]

Hi Mike,So it is true then that you cannot move past the only word you know – spiritual? I see you added the word Being in your quote – why, Mike?  Quoting what another person thinks is no more proof of anything than your own thoughts. Barnes is only a man! – not a God – but he seems to be your God along with NetBible. Are there not others who…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.  Like I said, it seems the only summary point you can bring to this topic is the word spiritual, which even that you cannot string one credible sentence together to prove your point – a point I may add, that doesn't prove that Spirits have bodies.  Mikeboll, apostle Paul was talking concerning how the dead bodies of human beings w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2012,18:24)I have a question  :do jelly fish have a flesh body ?Hi Terrarica.Yes, It is a Fish and it has flesh.  Fish is one of the things mentioned by Apostle Paul as as being a kind of flesh.Sorry to ask, but, what does a Jellyfish have to do with being spiritual – or even a Spirit having a body?

Hi Terraricca.The word 'Spiritual' is more often used in context of Earthly Beings.  Its meaning is similar to, but not exactly 'Supernatural'.So, 'Spiritual Love' does not mean 'Spirits having sex with each other' but 'People… Caring in a Godly way (love) but not a physical care but a mindful care': if a man said they had 'Spiritual Love' for…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll. Sorry, but exactly what is your point again? Are you trying to prove that Spirits have bodies by hanging off the word 'Spiritual'?Is that all of the 480 pages of attempts at a proof come down to?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,07:32)Quote (toby @ Feb. 06 2012,04:46)Hi Mikeboll. 'Wickedness' is not 'Personal' to an Angel alone.  Humans also can be possessed of 'Spiritual Wickedness'.  And how about “spiritual wickedness IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS”?Would that still apply to human beings as well?Mikeboll, and how about 'Spiritual Wickedness i…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2012,11:52)Sorry Tobyfor distracting the topicJourney, no problem.

Hi Mikeboll.  Can you please explain why you said the following (Bolded):Quote Jesus was made a little lower than the angels for a while, but still had the glory of God's only begotten Son on earth.  Later, he was raised to heaven as “the Son of God with power” (Rom 1:4)Romans 1:4 mentions nothing about Jesus being 'raised to Heaven' –  Romans 1:…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2012,00:18)Quote (toby @ Feb. 05 2012,03:54)Mikeboll, what does this mean in John 17: 24: '…Father, I desire that they also whom you gave me may be with me where I am that they may behold my glory which you gave me…'  Where was Jesus when he said this?  John 17:13I am coming to you now, but I say these things w…[Read more]

Hi Gene.  How about you and Mikeboll agreeing to drop the word 'Being' … as you rightly say it is not there in Scriptures.  Only when a deeper meaning is required should the embellishment be added.””We”” are intelligent enough to know that 'Spirit of Truth' is not a 'Being'.””We”” are intelligent enough to know that 'Spirit of Wisdom, Love, R…[Read more]

Hi Terraricca.  Did you not quote Rev 21:3 that states that God will be with Men?  And are these Men not those saved out of the world at the end of both resurrections?  And are these Men not going to live forever?  And if they are to live forever, will they not be in immortal bodies?  They can't be Spirits because Spirits can't die anyway, can…[Read more]