Jesus Christ did not pre exist except in the foreknowledge of God I Peter 1:20 ASV

who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was manifested at the end of times for your sake,

God speaks of those which be not as though they were. Romans 4:17

(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom…[Read more]

Yes, it is of pagan origin

It could be construed to be an indication of more than one person talking.

No, it is not an indication of more than one person talking.

It is a figure of speech called heterosis of number or majestic plural or plural of intensity.

Much like the Queen of England states, “We, the queen of England…”

She states “we” to intensify the majesty of…[Read more]

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And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto…[Read more]

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<div class=”verse”><span class=”verse_num”>14 </span>And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,…[Read more]

Good post.

We might ask ourselves,  who was Jesus referring to when he said, “I am” in John 8:58?

John 8:40 gives us a plain answer.  He is a man who is telling the truth.   Not a God who is telling the truth.

Of whom did he hear this truth?  Himself?  No,  the man, not God, who heard the truth heard it from God, not himself.

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It is clear that God speaks of there being other gods.

Who are these gods?  Are they all good or are they all bad or some good some bad?

Certainly, God gives the title of god to men.  He even speaks of He making Moses a god to Pharaoh.  Exodus 7:1

the word “god” or elohim or theos when defined as being a title not a name of one being only cl…[Read more]

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Can you explain to me in your view how Jesus was rich and became poor?

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

Can you explain how he existed in the form of God, but emptied himself, taking the…

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The teaching is that no matter how cushy our current position in life is, we should be willing to empty ourselves of that high position, and give up everything for the will of God, and the good of others. (Matt 19:16-22)

You’ll notice in verse 22, that man did NOT have the mind of Jesus in him – for Jesus indeed DID empty himself of the cus…

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How can God who is spirit have a son who is human?

Genesis 1:11-12,21

Everything after its kind

God is a rock

Jesus is a rock

Scripture is a rock

We are rocks

Wakeup,

Time for you to wake up to the purpose of this thread.

What your post has to do with my post in replying to the purpose of this thread is beyond me.

Why don’t you start your own thread to discuss your opinions?

sonofGod wrote:
Where in Philippians 2:6-8 does it stateJesus existed in the form of God BEFORE being made in the likeness of a human being
Where does the word BEFORE appear in that passage?

Philippians 2:6-11 goes in chronological order. For example, God didn’t give Jesus the name above all names BEFORE he became obedient to death, did He? Y…

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God’s glory.

We have been given God’s glory, even as Jesus Christ has been given God’s glory.

Romans 8:

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be…[Read more]

God is the only savior.

That is all salvation originates from God

Jesus Christ is a savior because Jesus Christ obeyed God to do so

Even as others have obeyed God to do so.

God has delegated the responsibility of saving (in part) to people

People like Gideon, Judges 6:14

And the LORD looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou…[Read more]

SonofGod.

So what is it that you disagree?

wakeup.

Did Jesus Christ “preexist”? IF Jesus Christ was alive in some form before his birth and conception, Matthew 1:18, then he was not human, for all humans had a beginning starting with the formation of a body and the addition of soul.

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Sonof God.

Did God preexist himself?

Really? Preexist? Some one existed before they existed?

Either they existed or they did not exist

You are speaking of the World,bound by time.
God is not in our timezone.

God is not bound by time, but Jesus Christ was and is. He is God’s only begotten son, the male human offspring of God, not God…[Read more]

SonofGod.

Can you explain this?
This is about the beginning.

1.In the beginning was the Word.(the Word of God).He is a living Word.
2.And the Word was WITH God. Who was with God?
(with God;not In God).
3.All things were made by HIM. Who was HE?
4.Without HIM was not anything made that was made. He created all things before His birth on…

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Hi SonofGod.

The book of isaiah is all prophecy.
The fact is, and we know, that the Son is Jesus,and it states that He is from everlasting.
And also the Mighty God.John states that The word was made flesh=the Son.
He also said that in the beginning was the Word.
This should not be understood as a mystery.
Because it is not.

wakeup.

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