I believe it is a reforming of the earth, a purging of all of man's works as well as the futility (atrophy) that creation has been subject to since the fall. So in a sense God restores our atmosphere and the earth itself (possibly including our sun and planets within our system) to it's former perfection and to an eternal state, basically…[Read more]

Nick,I believe that the thief died after Jesus as they broke the legs of the thieves (so they would die before sunset) but when they got to Jesus, He was dead already and they ran the spear into His side but did not break His legs. However I agree that the thieves died under the old covenant, the difference is that one of them went to paradise…[Read more]

Actually I heard that the first Thanksgivings were spent in prayer and fasting.

David,Saying something which may be similar to a pagan practice is therefore pagan, is the same as saying a practice similar to something christian is therefore christian. It is the reason for the practice which determines whether it is pagan or of God.Wm

I believe that saying Jesus is God is like saying you've captured the sun in a picture it will look like it but it is so much more. While Jesus is the image of the Father, He is not the Father.

Paul had his vision so fixed on heaven that he was torn between leaving or staying and it was his love for others that was the only thing that really had any hold on him here.

Well said T8,David, I fear that the JW's parallel the pharisees in many ways. The pharisees also used misapplied and/or misinterpretated scripture as well as “traditions” to “prove” how they were serving Jehovah, and everyone else wasn't. Be careful that your not found, not only refusing to enter in, but preventing others from entering in also.…[Read more]

My earlier postWhat I was saying, and do believe, is that I can know that I'm saved but if your doctrine was true I couldn't be Quote MATTHEW 7:21-23““Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord,…[Read more]

Afraid I can't help you. The scripture does seem to indicate there are groups of people who are saved but excluded from the heading of saint. It seems that most of the time that scripture excludes someone from the saint group it is those in leadership positions, contradicting my earlier post. in one case I found it stated “that thou shouldest give…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 04 2006,01:42)Seekingtruth, do you not see what I mean?Sorry David, can't talk right now, I've opened my own can of worms… Just kidding. Any time you bring up controversial subjects (whether of God or man) you will have to defend yourself. And as I've suggested before my concern is that the JW's bring some of that on…[Read more]

Thank you David for your response. I did not really believe it would make you stumble (lol). You are strong in your faith, what concerns me is where your faith is placed. Obviously one of us is wrong on each of the multiple issues we've debated, may the Holy Spirit guide us into all truth. Just so you know I am not ignoring you on those other…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 10 2006,19:59)Nick: I don't know how to do the quote boxes.  I'd like to learn.I agree with you that salvation is in the Son.  John 6:54 “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day”.  John 6:63 states: It is the spirit that quikeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: th…[Read more]

T8,I just read David's post under the “first christmas tree” post about celebrating Christmas and wanting to be sure that I wasn't turning a blind eye to something offending God, I prayed asking if it is wrong to celebrate Christmas (yes I know it is not the right day but it is one me and my wife decided years ago to go ahead and honor it on). At…[Read more]

When we see Him we will be like Him. I am confused, we have talked about saints on another tread and through PM but are you saying you believe that the 144k are the saints through out the ages? I need to understand better (of course we should probably move to your saints thread).

Those who had not worshipped the beast, the remnant, angels, and I believe that during the millenium there will be people capable of errors and needing judges possibly as in established by Moses.

Thank you T8,I agree the scriptures I've studied so far do not prove it, but they haven't disproved it either (and I don't believe He was Michael or any named angel). Debra – Your right in pointing out Christ is not a proper term for Him preincarnate as that was a position he achieved while here, I only use it as a term of reference.Is 1:18 – I…[Read more]

Nick, I don't blame you for questioning my posts, I question them and I wrote them. But until I'm shown, from scripture, how they are wrong I have no choice since as I stated earlier I believe God gave me this revelation. I was reluctant to bring it up (knowing I would get blasted) but felt I should, so either confirm or correct. As I've always…[Read more]

Quote All of creation came through the Son of God but I believe it is moving beyond revelation to say Jesus walked the earth before his birth. That is the sort of thinking that begat the trinity doctrine is it not? How can we follow him if he had the huge advantage of getting a preview of our human lives at first hand? I do not believe that He…[Read more]

Before I answer your question sscott I need to be clear on this; I do not embrace the traditional teaching of a trinity. The Son is subject to YHWH, who is the One without beginning or end, and while Jesus was not created He did have a beginning. Jesus is less then the Father but when we've seen Jesus we've seen the Father (at least all we can see…[Read more]

Exodus 14:19 The angel of God, who went before the camp of Israel, moved and went behind them1 Corinthians 10:4 for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. I believe Jesus has always worked with the Father in relating to man.I know you believe the Christ pre-existed his being born to Mary and that he emptied…[Read more]