Quote By the way I wasn't agreeing and calling anyone swine or anything, I was just agreeing that sometimes it's better to walk away.Actually I was not making reference to anyone in particular, just trying to point out what scripture said. It fits right in with the verse below.Wm

Gene,Well based on your reasoning of moving the comma to change “I tell you, today you will be” to “I tell you today, you will be” I suppose we should change this verse to say Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you before, Abraham was born I am.” so… were they not listening when He told them before, that Abraham was born I am?  Did I…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 24 2010,05:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2010,05:05)Shimmer……….. WE all need to stand back and make sound sense out of what we are saying, and try to see the overall picture about the Gospel , like what is it s purpose , who is it dealing with (preexisting beings or Mankind) what purpose was GOD the Father effecting…[Read more]

Stu,If your wife cheated on you and flaunted it, would you not be jealous?Why would the iniquity be visited to the 3rd or 4th generation? because of the influence from the living relatives.And why would He grant kindness for a thousand generations to those loving Him, because those truly loving Him will seek Him and His righteousness, and teach…[Read more]

If I had a whole beer bottle, I have 100% of a bottleIf I have a whole cap, I have 100% of a capIf I have a whole label, I have 100% of a labelIf I have 12 oz. of beer, I have 100% of the contents of a bottleAll together they produce 100% of a bottle of beerIf the items being discussed has parts that do not intersect with each other, then there…[Read more]

Genesis 11:6The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.

Irene,May the Lord be with you and bless you, I will remember you in my prayers.Wm

Happy Thanksgiving allWm

Lord I lift my sister up to you and ask that you would touch her, remove the pain and give her a complete healing. We thank you for her and ask for your blessing on her, in Jesus' name. AmenTough time of the year to only have one arm, good luck to you.Wm

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2010,22:22)Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 19 2010,16:01)Unless I missed something the scriptures seem to state that Jesus pre-existed and came from the Father, but He was not identified as the Son until the conception in Mary.Hi Wm,John 3:16-17 speak of Jesus being God's only begotten Son before he was born of Mary.So does…[Read more]

Gene,First, the verse you referenced agrees with my postulation. Second, I believe you've demonstrated for us very well how a preconceived idea can blind you to scriptures, you ignored more than a half a dozen scriptures in my post that disprove your position.My opinion – Wm

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 19 2010,14:14)Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 19 2010,16:01)Did you read the scriptures I posted?My opinion – WmHi Seeking Truth,I looked for this Post you mention, but couldn't find it; where is it?God blessEd Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGod is spirit, an infinite being, invisible, yet the source of all power. I believe at the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 19 2010,08:23)Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 18 2010,16:33)so if I state based on these scripture that God must of manifested a body to do these appearances, how is it unscriptural?Hi Wm,First of all, Jesus is the SON of God, not God Himself.  Do you want me to post scriptures that say Jesus is the Son of God?Second, no one…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2010,02:24)Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 14 2010,15:55)God is spirit, an infinite being, invisible, yet the source of all power. I believe at the foundation of creation an extension of the Father the “pre-incarnate Christ” was manifested, not a seperate being, but God Himself. It served as the interactive part of God in…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2010,09:17)We were created to be like Christ who is the image of God.An image of an image is still the image of the original.With paper a copy is the image of the original, but copies of copies can result in fuzzy images. Guess that's why we are told to conform to the image of Christ instead of Peter, John, or Paul to cut down…[Read more]

I must not of been clear, the corporal manifestation of the Father existed from the foundations of creation until the physical makeup of the manifestation (that contained all of the Father that could be contained within our reality) was emptied and took the form of a human. He was the Son of God, begotten from the Father. He was the Son of man…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2010,07:25)Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 14 2010,04:09)The closest you can come to putting an infinite “God in a container” has already been done… JesusHi Wm,Do you believe there is a boundary or barrier that separates what IS the being of God from what IS NOT the being of God?Do you believe Paul when he says there are…[Read more]

Quote If he thinks God can be put in a container The closest you can come to putting an infinite “God in a container” has already been done… Jesus John 21:25Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.Well I guess it was a…[Read more]

It seems this has gotten way off topic but I would like to wade in with my opinion of the topic. I believe scriptures to reliable as originally written and was ready to write all my reasons but found that T8 had covered it very well on page one. So instead I chose to respond to Adam on his 101 Contradictions. I started to address each one (it was…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 13 2010,17:29)PierreWhy would you pick up this topic, which we have debated in length.Georg,Isn't that the point of a forum?