seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Toby,The point I'm trying make is, it is being claimed that “flesh cannot be in heaven” because scripture tells us so. I do not know of any scripture to that effect and the one being used is being changed in an attempt to find support. If you know of a scripture please provide it otherwise let's not go beyond what scripture says. Just to be…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Mike,I'm not asking for your best guess, so are you basically admitting that there is no scriptural support for your claim that “flesh cannot be in heaven”. Yes or NoWm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Mike,You're the one who is big into not answering questions, Please tell me where we are told in scriptures that “flesh cannot be in heaven”.Thank you – Wm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote Many people misunderstand Acts 1:11 to be saying that Jesus left as a man, and will return as such. But the meaning is that Jesus left on the clouds, and will return the same way.Perhaps you're one of these, Wm? No Mike I believe scriptures “He will come back in the same way you saw him go.”Quote Wm, flesh cannot be in heaven,Please tell me…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (toby @ Feb. 01 2012,03:41)Hi SeekingTruth and Mikeboll.Mikeboll said:Quote 'The spirit inside has nothing to do with whether the being's body is natural or spiritual.'Can you see this getting very recursive? If the Body of the Spirit contains a Spirit then does the Spirit inside the body of the Spirit have a body?If 'yes' then is it a…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 30 2012,02:12)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 30 2012,11:49)To All,Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”. If Adam had ate from the tree of life God says he wou…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Mike,So the tree of life would have killed his flesh, and then he sheds it to become a spirit, doesn't sound like a transformation to me, after all he already had a spirit.Wm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Mike,The point I was getting at is Adam was flesh, and eating from the tree of life would have made him immortal, so would you agree that scripture teaches that flesh can be immortal?Wm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,I would like to have my question answered first, but I'll answer yours later. Wm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
To All,Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”. If Adam had ate from the tree of life God says he would have had an immortal body. How would that body have differed from Jesus' bod…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Clouds without water in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
journey42,I believe it's those who study the Scriptures thinking that they can gain eternal life from works and/or knowledge. Always learning facts, doctrine, verses, but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth (a God given revelation of Jesus that brings eternal life). Unwilling to die to self they are; Lovers of themselves, lovers of…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Not all things yet under Christ. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 9 months ago
Devolution,For the most part, say… 98% I agree. Good postWm
seekingtruth replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 12 years, 9 months ago
Thanks all for your prayers, they do help. God continues to meet our needs, sometimes its through odd jobs; mowing lawn, installing floors, building an apartment, whatever, and other times it comes out of the blue. I'm always willing to do whatever God has for me, but I mostly want to know his will, that is the hard part not being sure what to do,…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2012,06:17)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 24 2012,19:49)Genesis 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.There are plenty of cases where angels are seen by all and some where they were able to physically interact with people. Why was there no mention of eyes being…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic 21.12.2012 in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 12 years, 9 months ago
Welcome Jeremy,Actually we keep a pantry stocked for various reasons but what we do is buy bulk, or sales items (the better the sale the more we buy) We save at least 50% on our food costs, we have food at hand to help others and maintain a supply for emergencies (not a bad idea in Michigan anyway). Even then you never know what might happen so…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,Once again I do not understand what you're trying to say, you say “stick to scripture”, so I only posted scripture with no remarks. Then you tell me to “read it the way it is written” but it is a cut and paste from scriptures. You then post the same scriptures (different translation) but it still says the same thing nothings changed,…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic The Nephilim and the Sons of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
T8,Thanks for the videos, The Bible speaks of “giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of devils”, as “ufology” winds its way from the lunatic fringe of research, and (like evolution) it becomes accepted as mainstream “science”. I believe the Great Deception of the End Times will be extraterrestrial belief, it has a veneer of scientific cre…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
2 Corinthians 5:4 While we live in this tent, we have burdens and so we complain. I don’t mean that we want to remove this tent, but we want to be clothed with our heavenly home. Then this body that dies will be covered with life. 5 This is what God himself made us for. And he has given us the Spirit as the first payment to guarantee the life to come.
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
Mike,Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2012,07:13)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 23 2012,19:48)We may differ more than you thought, in those two cases the spiritual beings were in their natural state, requiring eyes to be opened to see them, however I do believe angels can temporarily manifest a body if so desired to accomplish an interaction with man.WHY…[Read more]
seekingtruth replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago
PierreBelow are many examples where I believe they show that there can be a spiritual aspect to human emotions/abilities. Some are evil some are good. In a couple of cases the “spirit” is cast out and the person delivered. Just to be clear I believe these are extreme cases of normal emotions/abilities.1 John 4:1 My dear friends, many false…[Read more]
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