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adam and gene,
word is personified by john ,the apostle in john's gospel.in addition,that personification /actual spiritual born person within God became a living being among us.similarly holy spirit is also personified as a friend or comforter.there is no wrong in assuming word and holy ghost as spiritual persons in accorance with the scriptures that personify.whereas, it is totally wrong to assume what is not in the scripture like 'plan' or 'intellect' for the personified word and similarly true for ignoring personified holy spirit.Come out of that hallucination.
you both are neglecting personified words in scriptures and going after your own imaginations/hallucinations.
babu

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ken and wj,
good points and convictions. God our Lord may bless you.
babu

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gene & others,

What the Bible has to say about the Holy Spirit

(1 Corinthians 6:19 KJV)
(19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost {which is} in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

(Romans 5:5 KJV)
(5) And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

(John 14:16-17 KJV)
(16) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (17) {Even} the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

(John 16:7,13 KJV)
(7) Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. (13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, {that} shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

holy spririt is personalised and it is doing works that are even impossible by men.Jesus christ is equal with God.Our pattern (structure is only similar to God, and all others are opponents to God i.e rebellion ways through blindness. For me, jesus christ is also a feature of God i.e in the pattern of man which God shares with man.Though trinity is not there in the bible, Jesus christ happened to be comforter when he had been on this earth and His role is taken by Holy spirit.Therefore, for me all three are same and one only in every nature. I want to say the words like 'unitarian' , Jehovah witness etc. will not be found in the bible.Though trinity is not there, many reasonings from the available scriptures imply the same meaning as trinity.
peace and love,get cool
babu

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ken ,
though trinity is not there in the bible, jesus is the truth,jesus is life.therefore, in this defective world no one could be truthful other than God no one could be a life giver except God.therefor jesus is my lord and my God.change your suppositions.
peace and happiness
babu

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irene,
thank you for your kind exhortation given to me through scripture.I am ver sorry if I hurt our brethern and God may forgive my transgression.lighten up you all.let us be united in christ .
babu

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people are going astray by bringing certain supposed words into scripture and being perverted.someone speaks of articles, someone speaks of plan etc..on john 1:1. grace=God,holy spirit=God,love=God as these are features of God.Similarly son is also a feature of God
(as your son will be of your features only)therefore, son=God.All features above in together including son make complete God.
babu

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to all,

people are going astray by bringing certain supposed words into scripture and being perverted.someone speaks of articles, someone speaks of plan etc..on john 1:1. grace=God,holy spirit=God,love=God as these are features of God.Similarly son is also a feature of God
9as your son will be of your features only)therefore, son=God.All features above in together including son make complete GZod.
babu

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gene,
please elaborate how you distinguish between supposition and faith.in bible, no scripture is there that many did miracles through suppositions.
babu

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gene & adam,

psalm 4:2 How long, O men, will you turn my glory into shame [ Or you dishonor my Glorious One ] ? How long will you love delusions and seek false gods [ Or seek lies ] ? Selah
john 17:24 Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

you both are forgetting many scriptures in the bible on preexistance of Jesus and going after your suppositions and beliefs and doctrines just to say we are of monoteistic ones and to please jews and muslims.stop your non sense thoughts and feeling, suppositions on preexistance of jesus.
babu

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Hi Gene,
I think you are carrying your children not in your blood, but in your mind only.I think you are not born again like a child in spirit.There is a birth in spirit and in flesh as well.
babu

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gene,
thank you.so, doing works prompted by the voice of jesus is faith.is it so?
babu

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Tiffany irene
thank you ,god bless you abundantly with grace,love,peace,honor and glory.

babu

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Mandy,
with skeptic mind on Lord Jesus,we can not understand God.No squat and nothing .Jesus existed in spirit form.When God himself is invisible, how a son being carried/possed by an invisible will be visible.For our limited senses, he was brought into appearance by putting upon him flesh and blood.Bible never says jesus is likened unto adam, but he is likened unto a human being, a sentient being.As first born of all creation, he was before adam.God was displaying all his handiwork through his only son/spirit/word including creation of adam also.
scripture can not be cooked story to build our faith.
babu

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Mandy,

Remove the words 'seems' and 'story'.

babu

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Adam and Gene,
There is one God and One mediator.Here, I want to explain the concept of mediator.There are two opposing groups :God and Human beings.A mediator can fulfill his plan/purpose only if he satisfies both groups OR if his words/ nature matches with both groups.Therefore, Jesus fully God and fully man also.
babu

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Gene,
faith without works is dead.Instead of works, you are using proofs.Here, works means fulfilling the command “love your neighbour as thyself” and walking,speaking,doing etc.. according to the guidance of holy spirit or his word.
babu

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Gene
you have not read fully what I wrote.I was explaining the meaning of rom:8-29.It implies he was before adam.More over, if you are believing in born again (answer for Nicodamus question to our Lord), Jesus was born in spirit in the beginning and born as flesh again
(reborn) by God's plan/love/grace.There are two births for any man, as such Jesus has also two birhts one in spirit and one in flesh.
babu

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gene, adam &n31
Exodus 13:2 Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, [both] of man and of beast: it [is] mine.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

as we see in rom 8:29, jesus was before adam.It means hewas before all creation.As we carry children in our blood (semen produced out of blood) God was carrying his only child/son in his spirit(as blood and flesh can not inherit heaven, only spirit can inherit).Therefore God had already begotten his invisible son in his spirit and God was carrying him all the time and allowed him to put on flesh and live among us.God displayed his handiwork throgh jesus,his word, as now also God displays through prophets, gospel preachers etc..
babu

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1st john 5:7 There are three that give witness about Jesus. 8 They are the Holy Spirit, the baptism of Jesus and his death. And the three of them agree.
babu

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theodorej,
thank you for good understandings.may God bless you.

babu

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