11] And I beheld 👉another beast coming up out of the earth👈; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake like a dragon.
And👉 he exerciseth all the power of the first beast👈 before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

@Proclaimer

Tell me, what is this beast THAT…[Read more]

Apparently I’m missing something when I read the words the Jesus said, because the works being spoken of are the miracles he was performing. The text literally says it; however, it has been twisted to say what it doesn’t BECAUSE none are doing the miraculous signs and wonders the Jesus promised they would.

Where do you get that the…[Read more]

Concerning your other post about adoption; the adoption narrative is moot and really a waste of time to debate UNLESS you can back up what you are saying with proof, because what you’re presenting is “hear say” and you’re really applying today’s standards of an “adoption” to an event 2000 years ago; did you read the link I gave you,…[Read more]

I am amazed at how much people read between the lines when discussing the bible; either words have meaning and they mean what they say or they’re simply a literary device that can be interpreted anyway one decides and is how we end up with multiple meanings…is it any wonder why there are so many “christian” faiths today, with e…[Read more]

Although Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus, he was Jesus’ legal father. In Jewish culture, legal paternity established family lineage and inheritance rights. He also had a biological descent through Mary, who may also have been a descendant of David. So that is a legal and a possible biological descent.

You may to check a…[Read more]

People have claimed to raise the dead. I saw a demon with my own eyes one time and was able to deliver my brother. The only reason greater works are even possible is because we stand on the shoulders of giants.
Also, much of what future generations have achieved is possible because Jesus is with the Father and he intercedes for us. We…

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If you love God and your fellow man, then you will do the will of God because you love and that means God and all that he has made.

If “love” is all I need to do the “will of G-d” then why do I need the Jesus. Why would I need to listen to a word the Jesus spoke? Are the 613 commands given by G-d insufficient? What did the Jesus s…[Read more]

Isa 7:14 “For this reason the sovereign master himself will give you a confirming sign. Look, this young woman is about to conceive and will give birth to a son. You, young woman, will name him Immanuel.”

Please read the entire chapter of Isaiah 7 and tell me it’s about a coming “messiah.” If by one singular verse you can make the…[Read more]

Gen 1:14And God says, “Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens,

It says it right there. The expanse has waters above it and below it.

Regarding your “lol”, your “How about really thinking about the following logic”…

I think this addresses the value of your “logic”:

Matt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Fat…[Read more]

Continuing on:

using the Tanak alone, this is how some will treat the messiah which perhaps you yourself may be included:
no beauty that we should desire him
despised and rejected
not esteemed
The stone the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone.
They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him.

The first…[Read more]

Continuing on:

Once as the lamb of God who was sacrificed for mankind’s sins. And returns as a reigning king to setup the Kingdom of God on earth.

What verse states the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind from the Tanakh? I believe I asked you this question once before and never received a response.

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Unfortunately the Jesus fails on being a member of the tribe of Judah; biologically he isn’t connected to the line of David because the spirit is the one who fathered him (Luke 1:26-35, Matt 1:18). It is of the seed of David the Messiah is to be born of (2 Sam 7:12-17, I Chron 11-14). Lineage is associated with the father and not t…[Read more]

The Hebrew word for “sky” in day two is the same Hebrew word for “heavens” in verse one. The form is a dual/plural usually written a collective singular but sometimes is shown plural depending on the verb that is used with it when the word is a subject of a sentence.  You can see that the stars were placed in the expanse that is in…[Read more]

in Luke 5.8, Peter says to Jesus, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man” which is simply an expression of awe and unworthiness. It has nothing to do with being cast away from God forever. When Jesus says it, he is also not always talking about the final judgement.

Not the verse I was referencing I was speaking on Matt 7:21-23 whe…[Read more]

You wrote:

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”

It was all there before Day 1.

I read the beginning of Genesis as a title or overview of what is to come in the verses that come after the first part of chapter one. For instance, we are told that the expanse called heaven was not made till day two, so the…[Read more]

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You Wrote:

Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:

Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus a…[Read more]

When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.

Be blessed, LU

Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.

You wrote:

Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:

• The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb…

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You wrote:

And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.

Let’s start here:

In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?

You wrote:

It doesn’t say that God created the sun and moon on Day 4. They merely appeared in the firmament.

14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the…[Read more]

Regarding what you wrote:

We are now living in Day Seven : God’s rest. And just as before, this day is not limited to twenty-four hours.

There have been many of God’s Sabbath rests in God’s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.

LU

The New Testament is precise…

Yet, I have pointed out over the last 1.5+ years the errors of the NT and how it doesn’t align with the Tanakh or how passages quoted from the Tanakh are taken out of context and/or twisted to fit the christian narrative. I have shown Paul is a liar and manipulator. I have proven the Jesus canNOT be t…[Read more]

And there it is!!!! Finally someone went out and studied a scriptural passage!! There is hope for one finding the truth!

Now what you need to do is apply this same method to EVERYTHING you have been told is truth! Like I have said, spend your time in the Tanakh and NOT the NT and study what G-d said. G-d never once spoke in the NT…[Read more]

Que?!!?

I didn’t say verse 4, but day 4 was when G-d created natural light; where HE placed the sun, moon, and stars to govern the day and the night. Nothing in the creation account does it speak of “clouds thinning out” and there being light. There’s a theory which states there was a “cloud” that covered the entire planet crea…[Read more]

You wrote:

Hebrews 3:11 (quoting Psalm 95:11):
“So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.”

You do realize that verse has nothing to do with the seventh day rest, right? The rest mentioned in Hebrews 3:11 is about the particular generation of Israelites not being allowed into the promise land due to their dis…[Read more]

You asked:

So you’re saying it was a spiritual day / light that also had evening and morning?

Good question, I think that the light of day one has to do with the Son of God who is “The Light of the World” entering the dimension of creation.

The term “day” was what God called the light. The darkness that was called night is d…[Read more]

New Testament aside.

Yes, do this for about two months and study the Tanakh; if you can, set aside the Jesus biases that have been planted in your mind.

Logic tells you there is an original devil or original one who first rejected God by exercising free will.

Please give the passage from the Tanakh where Satan is said to have rebelled…[Read more]

@DT
At the end of time, Islam
will submit to God or the Devil, the beast and the false prophet.
12] And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be…[Read more]

“how can the Jesus be of the line of David if she had never been with a man?”

Legally, through Joseph, since in Jewish tradition adoption or naming gave full rights to a father’s lineage; and possibly biologically, if Mary herself was also descended from David, as some believe Luke’s genealogy suggests.

Please site your source for…[Read more]

Concerning the Ezekiel 28 passage, you recognize a different title can be used to address the same person, just not in this case; why, because it doesn’t align with your belief system or I have to be wrong? You haven’t proved me wrong, just that you believe something different; who’s arguing?

I gave you a scriptural examples of bo…[Read more]

Satan appears rarely in the Old Testament, but the messiah had much to say about him.

Did the Jesus fulfill what was spoken about the Messiah in the Tanakh? If not, can he be called the Messiah; if so, what did he fulfill, please site the passage in the NT and the corresponding passage from the Tanakh?

The Old Testament also says…

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Been awhile for those questions; but your responses unfortunately are a prime example of what the church says when it can’t answer a question they aren’t prepared for or don’t have an answer to and that’s to provide vague, none answers. To say the end is a mystery and is revealed thru symbols that only at the “right time” true unders…[Read more]

Concerning your second reply to the “ruler of this world”; I asked for proof from the Tanakh NOT the NT. I want where G-d said Satan is the ruler of this world a not man, which is who you quoted.

I thought you knew I’ve rejected the NT entirely from the inconsistencies I’ve pointed out; if you didn’t, now you do. Do you have…[Read more]

Ezekiel 28 first addresses the ‘prince of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:1-10) and then shifts to address the ‘king of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:11-19).

They are one and the same. Did you find the parallels between both prophecies? Studying is your friend.

The first section about the prince of Tyre is directed at a human ruler who is proud and claims…

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I didn’t ask if Satan was the “god” of this world, I asked who the “ruler” of this world is. This distinction makes a huge difference in understanding. I won’t argue against christians MAKING Satan a “god” by applying and projecting all evil onto him, making him the patsy for every evil inclination and sinful act of mankind, and fo…[Read more]

What was your point? I was saying Satan isn’t the ruler of this world, G-d is. Who do you say the ruler of this world is? Are you saying the created have power over the creator?

Isa 45:7 “I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.”

In this passage G-d is the one who is spe…[Read more]

Is this war spoken of by Ezekiel the same battle spoken of in Revelation 20:7-9?

You.  …..I don’t think so as the Bible is predominately talking about the area around the Great Sea, (Mediterranean).

…..

Me

I live nearby and I have a daughter who lives on the shore.

The first beast in Revelation 13 is described as “rise up out of the sea”…

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast come up ou…[Read more]

When we left off you offered three suggestions to “the end of the age” and what you “believe” could be a possibility. From the sounds of it you aren’t sure of what the “end of the age” is.

In the parable of the wheat and tares the Jesus explicitly states the harvest is at the “end of the age” and the weeds are gathered and burn…[Read more]

I don’t see the problem you are talking about.

So you didn’t verify anything…gotcha! Keep smashing that “I Believe Button”!

The tares and the wheat and the dividing of them is a process.

EXCEPT what does Matt 13:39 say…“The harvest is the end of the age.” The “end of the age” isn’t a millennia long period; it punctual, like a…[Read more]

You’re arguing that if Jesus’ return truly eradicates all sin and lawlessness, the notion of a later rebellion (e.g., post-millennial reign) contradicts this promise. You suggest that such an idea implies Jesus’ kingdom is imperfect or that his followers could fall into sin again.

What I’m pointing out are the words of the Jesus and h…[Read more]

You :Nothing you have ever said about the Vatican has ever convinced me that it is the Beast.

The Beasts are the Empires around the Mediterranean Sea.

The Woman that rides the Beast on the other hand are the false religions of Babylon that have evolved into the false religions of the present era. The Vatican and Pope qualify here…[Read more]

There are tares and wheat. The tares are the children of the evil one and the wheat are the children of God. During the Millenial Reign, the evil one is restrained, so I guess that demonic temptation is not forthcoming, only one’s own flesh.

At the end, the evil one is released to harvest the tares that may not be obvious during the…

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Yes once dead one cannot be rejudged for past sin in the resurrection.

So what is the second death for?

The soul that sins will die.

Absolutely, G-d said so; but, what must one do to live? (Ezek 18)

Therefore, death is the price of sin and it is a required payment.

When did G-d say death is the “required payment” for sin?

God is also merciful.

Absolutely!! He tells us HE is AND freely forgives those who come to HIM with a repentant hea…[Read more]

Proclaimer wrote:

I finally realize the difference between christianity and what is written in the Tanakh concerning sin; christianity believes sin is a condition or an attribute/characteristic of humanity, consider themselves dirty rags, and thus need a “redeemer” to be forgiven; the Tanakh teaches sin is an action and you have a c…

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Proclaimer wrote:

I wasn’t speaking of paying a “fine”; I’m speaking of taking on the guilt of another; assuming the punishment of the guilty. Simply paying a “fine” is a monetary extortion of breaking a law and is used for compliance;

Sin has a cost and so does breaking man’s law. The cost for breaking some laws is a fine. The c…

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Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) Matt 2:15 to Hosea 11:1; do they agree? Explain how if you believe they do.

(Proclaimer) Carnality cannot see the deeper truths of scripture and wisdom. It is superficial. Jonah was in the belly of the big fish for 3 days and so the Son of Man was in the belly of the earth. Both rose from that hell.

What does…[Read more]

Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) What about Matt 5:43 where the Jesus says “you shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy”; where did God said to “hate your enemy.”

(Proclaimer) It does not say, “It is written”, but rather, “it hath been said”.

So, who said to “hate your enemy”? It definitely ISN’T written within the Tanakh. In fact the o…[Read more]

Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) I’m still waiting for when G-d, speaking thru the prophets, said the blood of the messiah was to save mankind from eternal death and sin.

(Proclaimer)Think about it, if God let out that part of his plan as you think he should have if it were true, then Jesus Christ would not have been sacrificed on a cross. S…

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