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DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 day, 2 hours ago
Apparently I’m missing something when I read the words the Jesus said, because the works being spoken of are the miracles he was performing. The text literally says it; however, it has been twisted to say what it doesn’t BECAUSE none are doing the miraculous signs and wonders the Jesus promised they would.
Where do you get that the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 day, 5 hours ago
Concerning your other post about adoption; the adoption narrative is moot and really a waste of time to debate UNLESS you can back up what you are saying with proof, because what you’re presenting is “hear say” and you’re really applying today’s standards of an “adoption” to an event 2000 years ago; did you read the link I gave you,…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 day, 5 hours ago
I am amazed at how much people read between the lines when discussing the bible; either words have meaning and they mean what they say or they’re simply a literary device that can be interpreted anyway one decides and is how we end up with multiple meanings…is it any wonder why there are so many “christian” faiths today, with e…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 week, 3 days ago
Although Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus, he was Jesus’ legal father. In Jewish culture, legal paternity established family lineage and inheritance rights. He also had a biological descent through Mary, who may also have been a descendant of David. So that is a legal and a possible biological descent.
You may to check a…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 week, 3 days ago
People have claimed to raise the dead. I saw a demon with my own eyes one time and was able to deliver my brother. The only reason greater works are even possible is because we stand on the shoulders of giants.
Also, much of what future generations have achieved is possible because Jesus is with the Father and he intercedes for us. We…DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 week, 3 days ago
If you love God and your fellow man, then you will do the will of God because you love and that means God and all that he has made.
If “love” is all I need to do the “will of G-d” then why do I need the Jesus. Why would I need to listen to a word the Jesus spoke? Are the 613 commands given by G-d insufficient? What did the Jesus s…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 1 week, 3 days ago
Isa 7:14 “For this reason the sovereign master himself will give you a confirming sign. Look, this young woman is about to conceive and will give birth to a son. You, young woman, will name him Immanuel.”
Please read the entire chapter of Isaiah 7 and tell me it’s about a coming “messiah.” If by one singular verse you can make the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Gen 1:14And God says, “Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens,
It says it right there. The expanse has waters above it and below it.
Regarding your “lol”, your “How about really thinking about the following logic”…
I think this addresses the value of your “logic”:
Matt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Fat…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Continuing on:
using the Tanak alone, this is how some will treat the messiah which perhaps you yourself may be included:
no beauty that we should desire him
despised and rejected
not esteemed
The stone the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone.
They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him.The first…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Continuing on:
Once as the lamb of God who was sacrificed for mankind’s sins. And returns as a reigning king to setup the Kingdom of God on earth.
What verse states the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind from the Tanakh? I believe I asked you this question once before and never received a response.
Read Exodus 32:30-35,…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Unfortunately the Jesus fails on being a member of the tribe of Judah; biologically he isn’t connected to the line of David because the spirit is the one who fathered him (Luke 1:26-35, Matt 1:18). It is of the seed of David the Messiah is to be born of (2 Sam 7:12-17, I Chron 11-14). Lineage is associated with the father and not t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 months, 3 weeks ago
The Hebrew word for “sky” in day two is the same Hebrew word for “heavens” in verse one. The form is a dual/plural usually written a collective singular but sometimes is shown plural depending on the verb that is used with it when the word is a subject of a sentence. You can see that the stars were placed in the expanse that is in…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 4 weeks ago
in Luke 5.8, Peter says to Jesus, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man” which is simply an expression of awe and unworthiness. It has nothing to do with being cast away from God forever. When Jesus says it, he is also not always talking about the final judgement.
Not the verse I was referencing I was speaking on Matt 7:21-23 whe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 months, 1 week ago
You wrote:
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
It was all there before Day 1.
I read the beginning of Genesis as a title or overview of what is to come in the verses that come after the first part of chapter one. For instance, we are told that the expanse called heaven was not made till day two, so the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Reposted because it has seemed to have been overlooked.
You Wrote:
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus a…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:
Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:
- The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
You wrote:
And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.
Let’s start here:
In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 months, 1 week ago
You wrote:
It doesn’t say that God created the sun and moon on Day 4. They merely appeared in the firmament.
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 months, 1 week ago
Regarding what you wrote:
We are now living in Day Seven : God’s rest. And just as before, this day is not limited to twenty-four hours.
There have been many of God’s Sabbath rests in God’s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.
LU
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