@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

I finally realize the difference between christianity and what is written in the Tanakh concerning sin; christianity believes sin is a condition or an attribute/characteristic of humanity, consider themselves dirty rags, and thus need a “redeemer” to be forgiven; the Tanakh teaches sin is an action and you have a c…

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@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

I wasn’t speaking of paying a “fine”; I’m speaking of taking on the guilt of another; assuming the punishment of the guilty. Simply paying a “fine” is a monetary extortion of breaking a law and is used for compliance;

Sin has a cost and so does breaking man’s law. The cost for breaking some laws is a fine. The c…

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@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) Matt 2:15 to Hosea 11:1; do they agree? Explain how if you believe they do.

(Proclaimer) Carnality cannot see the deeper truths of scripture and wisdom. It is superficial. Jonah was in the belly of the big fish for 3 days and so the Son of Man was in the belly of the earth. Both rose from that hell.

What does…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) What about Matt 5:43 where the Jesus says “you shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy”; where did God said to “hate your enemy.”

(Proclaimer) It does not say, “It is written”, but rather, “it hath been said”.

So, who said to “hate your enemy”? It definitely ISN’T written within the Tanakh. In fact the o…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

(DT) I’m still waiting for when G-d, speaking thru the prophets, said the blood of the messiah was to save mankind from eternal death and sin.

(Proclaimer)Think about it, if God let out that part of his plan as you think he should have if it were true, then Jesus Christ would not have been sacrificed on a cross. S…

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@Proclaimer,

Proclaimer wrote:

I am not sinless. Besides that, it is not hard to understand that another can pay your fine. God is merciful, but if you reject his mercy, then go ahead and pay your own fine. That is your choice.

I wasn’t speaking of paying a “fine”; I’m speaking of taking on the guilt of another; assuming the punishment of the gui…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

Hi desiretruth.

I see you have a problem that I see many others have today. No matter what is put forth, people are stubborn like mules and refuse to change. But I am not responsible for decisions that only you can make. I simply put forth truth and if someone hears it they have ears and if they cannot hear it, they are deaf. If they…

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@Proclaimer,

You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

The idea of the innocent bearing the guilt of the wicked is a key theme in the New Testament. It’s not about God changing His mind but rather a gradual r…

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@Proclaimer,

You: God is not a man. He is also not an angel. He doesn’t have a body. He is an eternal spirit.

Me: Can I say DUH!! I have never once stated the contrary. What I have said is God loves HIS creation; why doesn’t christianity understand that? I have never claimed to know or understand why good and bad things happen in the world, t…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

You: the messiah came to fulfil many things spoken of and ritualised.

Me: I have asked over and over again if Jesus accomplished what the Tanakh said the Messiah was to do when he comes, and even provided references from the Tanakh asking if Jesus accomplished what was said. None have provided an answer.

You: Now we live in a time…[Read more]

@proclaimer and all,

Updated info about the workers of iniquity aka freemasons.
They are trying to move us to commit the blasphemy against the Spirit of the Father and the Son.
Because the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
(Mark 3:28-30)
The solution is simple just accept the whole Bible.

@proclaimer

Hi Proclaimer,

We need both YHWH and his Son Jesus Christ for salvation.
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is…[Read more]

@Proclaimer: I do not.  I have tried for almost 30 years to find clear evidence of “three persons in the Godhead” from Scripture, and it simply isn’t there.  Not a single verse proclaims this “essential truth”.  It is a framework extrapolated from Scripture, constructed over 300+years of debate and speculation on the nature of Christ, and was ulti…

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@Proclaimer: I do not.  I have tried for almost 30 years to find clear evidence of “three persons in the Godhead” from Scripture, and it simply isn’t there.  Not a single verse proclaims this “essential truth”.  It is a framework extrapolated from Scripture, constructed over 300+years of debate and speculation on the nature of Christ, and was ul…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,
In response to post #945105

You quoted me:
“God said he is our salvation, not that I have to go through another. God said to repent, turn from your wickedness, and your sin will be remembered no more. God said HE had no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but desired they turn from their wickedness and live. What god do you s…[Read more]

@desiretruth @proclaimer

desiretruth also said: “Separate the OT from the NT and quit trying to merge what cannot be merged.” (post-944265)

Me: Romans 8:38-39
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor
things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature,…[Read more]

@proclaimer

Hi Proclaimer,

It is hard to admit but I’m no longer sure if we live on a flat earth.
I accused you of being a coward but the truth is that I am the coward.
I simply cannot answer many of your objections.
So I did ignore your questions and hide behind some memes.
That’s cowardliness.
I apologize for accusing you of many things.
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@Proclaimer,

Everyone seems to forget, I was on the same page (few exceptions) with most posting here. In fact was encouraged in my writings by some. Then about two months ago I came across the I Cor 15:3,4 verse; but didn’t gloss over it this time and everything was overturned…AGAIN! I have been “given” passages that are said to be poi…[Read more]

@proclaimer @admin

Hi Proclaimer/Admin,

Why don’t you ban this deceiver called “desiretruth”?
He himself said: “Separate the OT from the NT and quit trying to merge what cannot be merged.” (post-944265)
That’s his agenda. Is that okay with you?

@Proclaimer,

YOU: “If I had an enemy and I had a plan to defeat him within the laws that I myself set, then I wouldn’t be stupid enough to divulge that plan verbatim like you are expecting.”

ME: Are you saying “Satan” was to stupid to understand what was written in the OT?!?! Now there’s a good laugh! What exactly was “hidden” in the OT that man…[Read more]