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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,06:13)Paladin said:Quote All christians are in form God, as God lives in us and influences the changes in our lives.Jesus said, “You have not seen His form” (John 5:37). If all christians are in God form, then we have seen His form and Jesus was confused when He said that we have not seen His form.So you…[Read more]

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    Yes Edj, I believe you can. Jesus is after all called the Second Adam.For the head of man is Christ.The head of Christ is God.The head of the woman is the man.So if the woman is the image of the man, and Christ is the image of God, then are we all not an images of God?The image (Christ), and an image of the image (man) as well as an image of an…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,09:09)t8Why are you being obscure? Just answer the question.Try again…Does Jesus share or partake of Gods nature?Hint, the body that we recieve that will be like Christ has to do with his humanity.Ill ask it this way.Whos “Divine” nature are we being changed into?WJIf I am being obscure, then scripture is…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:57)t8Does Jesus share or partake of Gods nature?WJWJI will let scripture answer you.We can participate in divine nature.He existed with divine nature and took on the form of a servant and being found fashioned as a man (partook of human nature).Our lowly bodies will be transformed into a body like his.If…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:55)But you haven't given us an example of “identifying” anything or anyone without identifying their nature have you?Like I said before. If I say Fido, then I am identifying because I am using a name. I haven't said that Fido is a dog.If he happens to be a dog then you know that because Fido is a dog.If I…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:47)t8s model of confession is “If he is human in nature and if he has equality in nature, it still doesn't make him human.” Again, your confession is Jesus is “less” than “the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being”,No that is your perception of it.Let me correct you.”If he is…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:47)Really? Spin, spin spin. For example; please explain how a human son can not be human like his Father in nature?Not spin. It is the truth because it is what scripture says.All men are not Adam.All men are adam that is they are human in nature.Now God who is the Divine has divine nature and he shares his…[Read more]

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    Yes please put me in the Hot Seat.It's a bit cold right now.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:35)Will anyone or does anyone but Jesus and the Father sit in Gods throne t8?It is a simple yes or no question! You didn't answer my questions t8, why not? Should we put you on the hot seat?WJOnly the Father and Jesus will sit on the Father's throne.Now my question. Will anyone but Jesus sit in Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:19)BTW t8Since you are insisting that Jesus is like other “gods” when the word “theos” or “elohiym” is referred to Jesus, then let us hear you confession that Jesus is “your god”!Is Jesus your god t8?  If not, why not?You call satan “the God” of this world yet you can't say that Jesus is your…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)Does any other so-called gods have his position and role or are any others “the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word…”? Heb 1:3Read what you wrote again.You said that he is the representation of his being.It says representation,…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)then please explain to us how he is not God or even better how he is not “equally” God in nature?If he is divine in nature and if he has equality in nature, it still doesn't make him God.Similarly, if Eve has adam nature and is equal in nature to Adam, then she is still not Adam himself.Adam was the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)Now, since Jesus sits in the Throne of God and having the rule of God by having all authority and power, and since all things are upheld by the Word of his (Jesus) power (Heb 1:3) and that by him all things consist (Col 1:17) and come from him to us, then please explain to us how he is not God or even…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,06:47)Jesus is not in a class of being by himself is he?Whatever class of being he is, we will be given bodies like his one and he will call us brothers.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,07:56)You say Jesus is a Spirit being like the Father I agree that the Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of God. But are you saying that angels, and men who are spirits “ARE” the same “Spirit” God is? Are the angels spirit the Spirit of God? Is your Spirit the Spirit of God? Because Jesus Spirit is the Spirit of…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Yes, and you cannot separate identity from nature can you?Pity you said that. But we have made progress all the same.It is OK for you to have no distinction between identity and nature. It limits your understanding and makes it hard when identifying God/Adam/The Devil etc.Because qualitatively speaking…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Look again t8 they were accusing him of saying he was the “Son of God” and that is why they were going to stone him. Why is that t8?The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, “because he made himself the Son of God. John 19:7Great we have progress. This has been my point all…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)And what is that t8? You do not even tell us “What” he is. You say he is not merely a man yet you say he is not God. If he is not a mere man or God, what is he t8?Do you doubt scripture?If so, your argument is not with me as I am merely repeating that which is written.Philippians 3:21who, by the pow…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Really? Where are the scriptures that call the angels “Sons of God”?I don't want to diverge too much here, but angels are called sons of God below. You may disagree that one or more of the scriptures below are not referring to angels, if so, that is another topic and belongs elsewhere. But the first 2 s…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,09:04)t8They were “One Flesh” which means they are qualitatively human or mankind.The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are qualitativley God or Godkind.Why is that so hard to understand?WJAsk yourself the question why scripture says, “ye are theos”, and “Ye are elohim, you are all sons of the Most High”.Ask…[Read more]

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