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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    WJ, I am just checking that you are going to answer this question.If not, then at least we can conclude that you are stumped.

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    KJ, do you concede that I have taught the truth in this debate?Or do you have something new to oppose me with?

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    IMO the Catholic Church is not the original Church or the Church as they like to think, but the first denomination.Pre-Catholic Church we had the Body of Christ. Out of the Roman Empire came the Holy Roman Empire and then the Roman Catholic Church. It served that empire well and that empire survived beyond its natural expiry date as a result.Is it…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    WJ, I pray to the Father in the name of Jesus.Get over it.Also, worship is the same as honour and I worship/honour God as God and Jesus as the son of God.There is nothing evading about it. It is the truth.Accept that this is how I talk to God (the Father) and move on with the debate please.Back to the question which BTW preceded your question:”Are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    I should also add that in the event that you are not able to move on, I will then open the debate so that others can give their opinion and bring accountability to both of us.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    WJ, I beleive that you are underqulaified to be debating this topic and your approach is childish.You ask why I do not talk to them and I answer that I talk to the Father through the son, and that I do not pray Dear Father thank you Jesus please do this Holy Spirit. My answer is very clear and scriptural. Trying to get me to say that I speak to a…[Read more]

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    Why the need to quote for every single post.I personally don't bother to read topics formatted that way.It involves too much scrolling just to follow the conversation.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    WJ, I have given you the answer.I speak to God in the name of Jesus.That means I speak to the Father as Jesus taught.The fact that you cannot fathom this is probably why you cannot see that the Trinity Doctrine is false.If you can't work out what I am saying, then what chance do you have with such matters as who is God.Think of it in the same way…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)mikeDidn't God create man, male and female?:)

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Love in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago

    Although there are a lot of words that describe love, I think it is hard to define because it is pure and not the result of a combination of things.If I had to define orange, I could say it is the combination of red and yellow. But if I had to define red, that would be difficult because it is a primary colour.Love is also primary and many…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    I guess if you copy and paste the answer here, then we can see that you did.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    I have answered the question about three times.It is God that I talk to in prayer as Jesus taught me too.I do that through Jesus name and by the power of God's spirit.Whereas I guess you pray or converse with all 3 interchangeably, I do not.Why is this not an answer for you? It is my answer and it is the truth.What more do you want?

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    Hey I know, shall we close our eyes to the truth that everything either came from someone, something, or nothing. Knowing that the latter two points are impossible, it leaves the first point as the only reasonable explanation which BTW, answers everything.But like I said, lets forget truth and concentrate on trying to baffle people with well…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 10 2010,08:05)Mike i learn from the best (as in you)Your a ninja, in the secret arts of getting around arguements, and before you know it,we jump through a wormholeand we are back where we stated,in the 70's……..Don't knock it. The 70s brought us disco didn't it?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2011,03:40)So I agree with you as far as man as a messenger (angel), but not that man is an angelic being or in the angelic class of beings. Do you believe that men are in the same class as angelic beings?Then we are in agreement because you now admit that man can be referred to as an angel. I guess by me making…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2011,08:50)So I can say that THEY” saved me, and “THEY” healed me and “THEY” filled me with the Holy Spirit. Isn’t that your confession t8, or is it?WJ, to the person that led me to Christ, I could say, they when addressing God's salvation work proclaimed through his servant, (the one who brought the gospel to me)…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2011,08:50)Once again how do you talk to the Father without including Jesus and the Holy Spirit?Let me reword your question withjout changing the meaning. This will provide the answer to your question if you care to look.“Once again how do you talk to God without including his son Jesus or his spirit.”Now I will…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2011,08:50)So you have to have someone else (Jesus) to go to your one God or to serve your one God? I will ask again…Can you have fellowship with God the Father without Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Then why don’t you say you go to “THEM” to fellowship if you cannot have the Father without Jesus and the Holy Spi…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2011,11:16)Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2011,16:44)Mike,1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.For one thing, the 'all things' does not include the one Lord, Jesus Christ otherwise He…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago

    Thanks for your reply WJ.For me there is one God the Father.I come to the Father in the name of Jesus, and I aim to do all in the name of Jesus.It is not about saying God is THEM, but that God is HIM and I talk to HIM and try to do HIS will in the name of HIS son.Now as for you, your post reinforces that God to you is THEM.So be true to yourself…[Read more]

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