This poll is like a poll that says:Have you stopped robbing banksAre you still robbing banks.There is no option for those who do not rob banks.Quote There is Only One True God literally! There are other True Gods with the Only One True God! I don't know!When you capitalise God, that is the same as THE God.You have no option for theos.Here is an…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2011,12:56)Quote (shimmer @ May 26 2011,22:15)Hi Mike. Ok… I think I may be more Unitarian maybe…Hi Shimmer,I would become a member of a Unitarian Church, but they don't believe in the pre-existence of Jesus.Even if they did believe that, is it not better to be a member of the Body of Christ/the Church anyway?At…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2011,04:13)But if you insist that I must refer to God always as “they or them” then you must be fair when you refer to a group or unit as they or them.For instance when you refer to the “body” of Christ you should clarify that the Body is made up of “them or they”.Sure I understand that the body has many…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2011,04:13)Here is my answer again…They are my Savour, they are my Lord, they are my God, and they are my Light and Life, for they are “One”. I was also baptised in “Their” name. How about you?They meaning the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.So you see t8 I have no problem refering to God as they!OK great. As…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2011,03:58)Hi t8Okay so you give the same honour/worship to Jesus as you do to the Father?A simple yes or no will suffice.WJNo.I honour/worship God as God, Jesus as the son of God and the Lamb of God, and Moses as a prophet of God.Obviously the honour and worship is different as worship and honour toward God would…[Read more]

Now go back to the verses in question WJ and have another go.The Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy by saying that he was claiming to be God.Jesus corrected them and said ye are gods and he was the son of God.John 10:32-3632 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”33 “We are not s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2011,07:13)”why do you blaspheme by not calling Jesus God according to the scriptures”?OK, another dodge, but I will go along anyway.The answer is simply in this question.Q: Why did Peter blaspheme by not calling Jesus God?A: He didn't blaspheme.I am no different to Peter, so if you are going to accuse me of s…[Read more]

WJ, your above post is either deceptive or you are not listening to what I am saying.Men are called messengers in scripture as are other beings. I said this all along and now you appear to be arguing that I am not saying this.Is this correct?Because your stance was that men are not angels and I argued otherwise that the term indeed includes…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 03 2011,03:47)t8Obviously you didn't read the documents.  I am not teaching a trinity doctrine.  I am interested in Christianity.  Please read the documents and discuss them, that is what this topic is about, thanks.I discussed quotes from that book. Your quotes.I gave answers to your quotes.You can't force people to re…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 04 2011,01:54)I believe the Son was always within the Father before He was begotten.  No one can prove otherwise.Could you prove or disprove that I was not always in God?The logos was and still is in God.Then the logos was WITH God.This doesn't mean that God was now without logos, but that God gave birth, produced, sourced…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 02 2011,17:24)Then, they wouldn't be parallel lines, would they?  A paradox.If space is uneven, and parallel lines are even, then perhaps the lines are parallel because parallel is not defined as following the clumps and sparse parts of the fabric of space, rather that on a 2-dimensional plane, they are straight and do not…[Read more]

Kathi, scripture and the commandments do not teach the Trinity. It is a confusion with theos as in nature or THEOS as in identity. The same confusion the Pharisees had with Jesus.It doesn't matter what ancient book you read, if you make that mistake or do not understand the difference, then you will get the wrong idea from any book.If you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,16:28)Jer 23:5“Behold, the days are coming,” declares the LORD,        “When I will raise up for David a righteous Branch;        And He will reign as king and act wisely        And do justice and righteousness in the land.6“In His days Judah will be saved,        And Israel will dwell securely;        And th…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,16:28)t8, you really ought to go to the op here and go to the link and read the historical documents.Kathi I will most likely get around to reading it as I do many books. But I am not in a hurry because I am not like the man who runs here and there looking for acceptance or justification for his faith. I am not like…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,13:58)And I've argued against this one, for that would mean that Jesus IS God's own wisdom and reason. It would mean that JESUS is the “smart one”, so to speak, and God is the “dumb one”. It would mean that the Father could not make a wise decision on his own, apart from His wisdom, Jesus. It would mean that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2011,20:05)So if Jesus came forth from God even as John came forth from God then it follows that in the same way Jesus sent his apostles into the world even as he states in verse18, chapter 17 of John.  He also states in verse 14 that the apostles are not of the world.But if Jesus is preexistent spirit being who were sent…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2011,14:03)We would never say, “Marty partook in human nature”, because you have never been anything but human nature, right?That is a good point and another indicator that Jesus existed with another nature namely divine because he partook of human nature. Likewise we can partake of divine nature.To partake means to join…[Read more]

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I haven't read this document, so no comment on that.But my comment on something I read in this page. To be from everlasting does not mean you have always existed forever.It implies at most that he came before time. Because what was before time?Perhaps eternity? NOTE: Eon actually means age and is the word for world because this world is the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,04:01)Hi AllI worship the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit for they are God!  WJGood to see you using the word “they”.Don't forget to use the word “them” too. Just don't use “Him” or “his”. That would be deceptive.We use those words who believe that the Father is the one true God.Thanks WJ.