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Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
First question.Is Jesus the Heavenly Father according to this verse?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,03:12)Well t8Then you must also accuse Isaiah of calling Jesus the Mighty God and YHVH in the same breath.Was Isaiah an idiot for giving the same divine title to Jesus as YHVH?For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2011,00:37)T8………Lets be honest there is hardly any difference between Preexistences and TrinitariansVery narrow minded of you gene.Trinitarians believe that three persons are God. That is primarily what defines the Trinity doctrine.Preexistence is believed by most Christians whether they are Trinitarian or not.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
The scripture “mighty el and everlasting father” is a scripture that both Trinitarians and Oneness exploit.Trinitarians say that mighty el is tantamount to Almighty God and Oneness say the same thing but also tack on that Jesus is the Father.Both groups are guilty of exploiting this scripture for their own twisted agenda.The bizzare thing is that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,14:56)Here's another example of “Exception for Jesus” logic:Yes that exception rule is definitely bizarre.As soon as Jesus is mentioned all logic and teaching by pattern in scripture is thrown out the window.Ye are theos is pretty much ignored, while any kind of attribution of theos to Christ and that makes him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,13:51)Quote (Pastry @ June 21 2011,15:57)t8 I am sure surprised that you believe in the trinity.Hi Irene,You have mistaken something t8 said, for he clearly does NOT believe in the trinity, and tirelessly and brilliantly shows how comically flawed that doctrine is.Perhaps your new meds are messin' with your head?…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Ed J for second Moderator. in the forum View Points 15 years, 3 months ago
There are 3 moderators currently, although 1 hasn't been here for quite some time.But yes, more mods is possible.We use to have 4 at one stage, but one of them didn't work out.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 22 2011,12:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,03:09)Quote (t8 @ June 21 2011,16:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,08:30)How many “theos/gods” do you have, believe in and serve David”?WJWJ admitted earlier to theos having other uses, but he did that only because it suited him at the time. t8This is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,11:59)Quote (t8 @ June 21 2011,17:08)Another example is three persons being God, and yet THEY are not THEY, but for some strange illogical reason are HIM.t8This is a logical fallacy since their are many pliral unities we refer to as “them or they”.If I refer to my government I can say “they or them”.If we say…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
It says “…They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child,…”Grammatically, the “Me” and the “him” cannot refer to the same individual can it?I find it in line with reality that the false doctrine of the Trinity relies heavily on grammatically incorrect English. Another example is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,08:30)How many “theos/gods” do you have, believe in and serve David”?WJWJ admitted earlier to theos having other uses, but he did that only because it suited him at the time. Now it doesn't suit him, so he goes back to ridiculing the idea that 'ye are gods' and that the use of theos there was also applicable…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Scientific Quotes in the forum Creation & Science 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 21 2011,17:40)You were more interesting when you were talking about unicorns.Let me guess, it was the part where I said to give you imagination free reign as they do in Evolution theory.What about Leprechauns. Their size helped them to run under small trees and fallen logs thereby allowing them to escape predators who were quite…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
I like Bizzaro World. Plenty of laughs had by all. More please. WJ, more inspiration too.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
So in order to dig yourself out of a hole that you dug yourself, you now have to admit that there are other legit uses for theos in scripture.It was a long time coming WJ. You should really be more accepting of truth to begin with rather than only admitting it when it benefits you.My next post will come today probably. No time to do that now. But…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Scientific Quotes in the forum Creation & Science 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote Without evidence of unicorns you have nothing of any meaning to say. Just like your Book of Chattering Snakes.OK Stu, I can see you have no comeback and thus have resorted to creating sentences entirely composed of your opinion and structured for the purpose of only to get a response, (rather than add some learning). So there is no point…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote So that means to you that Mary is the mother of “a god” right?Actually WJ, that is reinforcement of my post.Mary was the mother of Jesus humanity, but the Trinity Doctrine aided the doctrine that she was the mother of God because that doctrine says that Jesus is God.Thanks Dubla Jay.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Thanks WJ for your contribution to Bizzaro World you have added another and we have a live example right here in Bizzaro World.You and others have no comprehension of the way scripture uses theos, adam, diablo, etc in a qualitative sense and as identifying someone. This is one of the things that definitely needs to be added to Bizzaro World.You…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
While I am at it, the Mother of God doctrine is a perfect example of gibberish.Jesus is God, therefore his mother must be the Mother of God.An unfortunate outcome spawned by the Trinity Doctrine.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Another gibberish doctrine is the one that says that the Roman Catholic Church is the original church.How is that when the Body of Christ which is called the Church in scripture started with Jesus which was obviously some time in the first century or less, and the Roman Catholic Church came centuries later.If anything, you could make the argument…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
What about the scriptures that say that God created all through the Logos and the one that says God created all through Jesus. The former example even identifies the Logos as Jesus.Knowing this, some say that the Logos is actually God and God creating all through Jesus is symbolic.So how do you take these 3 points:God created all through the…[Read more]
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