Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2011,10:43)Quote (t8 @ June 23 2011,15:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,08:58)Quote (t8 @ June 22 2011,16:56)First question.Is Jesus the Heavenly Father according to this verse?t8It doesn't say “heavenly father” does it?WJThank you for taking the bait.I now reel you in with, “It doesn't say the Almighty (God)…[Read more]

Mike is right KJ.And you owe me an explanation as to the truth I pointed out regarding this in the debate we are having.Reinforcing your view which is currently been exposed as wrong in our debate is not wise.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2011,09:17)His name shall be called “Everlasting Father” because he is the source of all things to all of creation. Sure I call him “My” everlasting Father because the scriptures say he is!Be honest, besides now, when was the last time you referred to Jesus Christ as the Everlasting Father?Or for that matter, when…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2011,09:31)How many Saviors do you have?YHWH saved me through Jesus Christ.YHWH is the true saviour. Therefore one saviour who uses multiple agencies.Agencies = Jesus who died for me, the evangelist who led me to faith, angels who save me from calamities.How many Saviors do you have?Let me answer your own…[Read more]

“As we shall see, the concept of time has no meaning before the beginning of the universe. This was first pointed out by St. Augustine. When asked: What did God do before he created the universe? Augustine didn't reply: He was preparing Hell for people who asked such questions. Instead, he said that time was a property of the universe that God…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 23 2011,22:06)The same could equally be said for you and what I wrote about spirituality.What value is spirituality based on things that just aren't true, like virgin birth, walking on the surface of water, walking again after being killed, and snakes chatting with humans?StuartI have been on both sides of the fence.Half my life…[Read more]

Yes organised religion for political power is one of the most abusive systems that was ever devised. A cunning idea I have to admit.They also reject much of what scripture says.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,08:58)Quote (t8 @ June 22 2011,16:56)First question.Is Jesus the Heavenly Father according to this verse?t8It doesn't say “heavenly father” does it?WJThank you for taking the bait.I now reel you in with, “It doesn't say the Almighty (God) Elohim” does it.Visualise yourself flapping on the concrete at this…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 24 2011,04:38)The substance is God.Scripture please.A third century doctrine that was made official by a Roman Emperor will not suffice.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,09:11)By the way t8, do you call Jesus your Mighty God?  WJActually I don't call him that but have no problem with saying it the way it is meant here.Do you call him the Everlasting Father? Again, I do not, but have no problem with saying that in the context it was meant.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2011,06:21)JAThank you for verifying the truth that Jesus is YHVH.The scriptures emphatically claim it was by Jesus own life and blood that saved us for himself and that there is only “One Savior”.while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior”, Jesus Christ, “WHO GAVE H…[Read more]

Thanks for the demonstration Stu.You gave a live example to what those scriptures were saying.Might as well be a blind man saying “What is this colour green”.Of course this is lost on you.

Quote Real science is constrained by what is possible with the ….Let me finish the sentence without the extra detail.”the physical realm.”So it reads as”Real science is constrained by what is possible within the physical realm.OK, we are making progress.Now try and discern the following scripture:The man without the Spirit does not accept the…[Read more]

Justin Martyr (ca. 150 A.D) put it like this gene:he was begotten out of the Father by an act of will, just as we see happening among ourselves: for when we give out some word, we beget the word, yet not by abscission, so as to lessen the word in us, when we give it out, and just as we see also happening in the case of a fire, which is not…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2011,06:37)T8……..The Logos IS the very expression of GOD and His words are with him.If that is the case, then is it not possible in your thinking that the Logos was given birth or at some stage was WITH God? Because if that was possible, then God making everything through Christ as well as the Logos would make…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,12:14)This is mish-mashed, illogical, nonsensical English, Gene.How can any sensible person say “He HAD that glory but he didn't really have until later”?Yeah Gene.Until you can explain this and other things, why should anyone take what you say as being true.If you don't understand your own doctrine, or if…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,09:27)Do you ever say God is my rock and “HE” is my Savour?Do you ever call God your Father and only God?As said many times to you before WJ, God is ultimately the one who saved us.Why?Because it was HE who sent his son into the world to save the world. Jesus didn't come in his own name under his own accord,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,09:14)That is your strategy right there WJ. Accuse the other person of doing what you are doing.I have noticed that sometimes people's pet hate is the very thing they do but because they can't face up to it themselves, they decide to pin it on others.I stumped you once again, and then you decide to bring out…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,02:41)t8 Stick your head in the sand if you like.That is your strategy right there WJ. Accuse the other person of doing what you are doing.I have noticed that sometimes people's pet hate is the very thing they do but because they can't face up to it themselves, they decide to pin it on others.I stumped you…[Read more]

After that question, can you give me the exact verse where YHWH is the mighty God?