Quote (Stu @ June 27 2011,17:06)Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,12:50)Quote (Stu @ June 25 2011,15:19)You have never even explained the appearance of energy and matter in the universe and I have.Was it the Gravity God?Or something else.Please explain the appearance of energy and matter in the universe in your next post.Try to keep it short if you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2011,12:11).”Such simple instincts as bees making a beehive could be sufficient to overthrow my whole theory.” ~ Charles Darwin”Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy.” ~ Charles Darwin.One of your main prophets has spoken. Show some respect Stu.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2011,13:09)Quote (t8 @ June 30 2011,10:15)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2011,07:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,01:44)“Jacob have I Loved , Esau have I hated”, notice both are past tense statements, this required a past association before they were ever physically born. Hi Gene,Does this statement mean that you…[Read more]

God is the source of all.God is not OF anyone.

Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2011,07:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,01:44)“Jacob have I Loved , Esau have I hated”, notice both are past tense statements, this required a past association before they were ever physically born. Hi Gene,Does this statement mean that you believe we all pre-existed?God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2011,09:10)Hi David, Ed and Irene. You have brought up another one of the Anti-Jesus is God fallacies which I will address tomorrow, until then goodnight and cudos. WJBefore you do that, why not be honest and admit that you have 3 saviours. The Father, Son, and Spirit.Can you admit that you have 3 saviours?

Quote (Lightenup @ June 30 2011,08:15)family man = man + his wife + their childNo time for a lengthy post now, but I will throw this in for now given that it will take a minute.Family is a unit/organisation made up of persons.A family is not a HIM, but THEY.So like WJ, you need to address God as THEY to be consistent with your doctrine. Yet in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2011,01:29)If an animal is equal to a dog in nature then it is a dog!Sound the trumpets, I think we have made some progress with WJ.Yes if Adam is equal to adam in nature, then Adam is an adam or adam. If Eve is equal to Adam in nature then Eve is adam, and not to be confused with THE Adam.If Jesus is equal to…[Read more]

Another Bizzaro World Doctrine.That the Trinity God is the saviour (singular).Why is this bizzare? Because savour is a word that is applied to persons and not nature.Now the Trinity Doctrine says that the substance is made up of three persons, namely the Father, Son, and Spirit.Therefore God to a Trinitarian is/are their SAVIOURS, because three…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,01:49)Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,17:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,05:12)How many Saviors do you have ED?WJYou have three.The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.How many do you have EdJ?Can you beat WJ?t8That is a lie! My God and Savior are One. Because the truth of the scriptures are “They are our Savior…[Read more]

The idea that claiming equality to something makes you the same thing certainly fits the Bizzaro World Doctrines description.Proponents of this idea ignore the truth that being equal means you are still not that which you are equal to.e.g., 3+3 = 6 and 2+2+2=62 is NOT 3, but they can be equal when applied in a certain way.Or a foot-long at subway…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,05:20)To claim he was the “Only Begotten Son of God” was claiming equality with God.To claim equality by its very nature means that you are not claiming to be thing you are equal to.Equal rights for women, doesn't mean that women are now men/male.I seriously think that most of your misconceptions could be…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,06:15)There is no mention of the Father here…words like “WHO GAVE HIMSELF”, ”That HE” might redeem us from all iniquity, and ”purify UNTO HIMSELF clearly contradicts your agency claim.WJWake up WJ.When we do the will of God and God says to give our self and we do that, we still choose to give our self do we…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,06:46)Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2011,14:27)You should not try to separate God from Jesus Christ.Exactly!Our God and Savior is the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit because you cannot have the one without the other!WJThat is three saviours.Don't forget your English plurals when talking about your saviours WJ.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,08:47)Do we? Do you believe Jesus is “One God” with the Father and the Holy Spirit?Is your “God” the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?WJInterpretation:Do we believe that God is triune as Athanasius of Alexandra taught, or that there is one God the Father like Paul of Tarsus taught?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,05:12)How many Saviors do you have ED?WJYou have three.The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.How many do you have EdJ?Can you beat WJ?

The point I was making WJ, is that God still creates us, even though we come from our mother. Who else created us?Our mother is the channel so to speak. She is the one who we are created through.I would have thought that you wouldn't need a scripture for that because it was self-evident.Or maybe I got the wrong end of the stick with your post?

Gene, you lack understanding. How is it that God created you through your parents if he created you alone?Can not your understanding comprehend that it is still God creating you alone, even if he does it through your parents?Have you not read that God created Eve through Adam?Please explain why this truth contradicts your view of God creating alone.

Quote (david @ June 27 2011,10:47)That's why we have names. If I refer to you as Gordon, chances are you won't respond to me.You never know.I tried it out in my previous post.

Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2011,09:21)t8,Quote Even Jesus is a son of the Most High except that he is the only begotten and firstborn. A big exception there t8.  A difference between deity and non deity.God is a 'Him' on one side of the equation but on the other side of the equation, the Father is a mighty God, the Son is a mighty God, and with…[Read more]