Jesus has a God like us. In fact his God is our God too.John 20:17 (English-NIV) Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, `I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.Romans 15:6 (English-NIV) so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the…[Read more]

God Almighty is clearly the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. He is a HIM.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 26 2011,04:06)Ok, so I read through Mike's, Irene's and t8's posts and suffice it to say…no one seems to understand:1. How a compound unity has more than one person in it, hence one can be the father of the other.  The 'other' does not need to be the 'father' of himself.2. A compound unity is both plural AND singular…[Read more]

2 Corinthians 11:3-43 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different g…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,16:46)That is preposterous to say that satan is the originator/Father of this world.  Are you in the business of exalting satan to creator now?  Jehovah is not satan, t8.  Jehovah created the world.You show your lack of understanding.He is the God of this world/age.YWHW is the God of the Earth.The world or age is no…[Read more]

God is the Father.ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, WHO IS ABOVE ALL, ANDTHROUGH ALL, AND IN ALL.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,17:14)Irene,Jehovah is ONE as in the word 'echad' in Hebrew which can mean a unity of more than one.  If the writer meant one as in a singular number then another Hebrew word 'yachid' would be more appropriately used.  I believe in scripture and believe that echad is a unity here…the NT shows that to be true.  …[Read more]

Hey David.Why don't you re-post your opening post into Believers Category. I think it is still relevant there too.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,16:06)I said:”And there could be more than one Jehovah in different places but they represent one truth.”And scripture says that YHWH is one, not triune or biune.Hear, O Israel: The Y@hovah elohiym is one [email protected]: The Y@hovah elohiym is a triune Y@hovah.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,13:59)Mike,If God called satan the god of anything it is simply because satan exalted himself and demands worship.  God agrees that satan exalted himself and is demanding worship and therefore calls him a god.  The gods of Egypt are referred to as their gods not 'His' gods.  He did not make anyone gods, the gods ma…[Read more]

Never noticed that one before.John 6:57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.Exposes the co-equal and three are God philosophy, as do many other scriptures.

Never noticed that one before.John 6:57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.Exposes the co-equal all are God philosophy as do many other scriptures.

KJ says that 1 John 5:20 which says this: We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.is actually saying that Jesus Christ is the true God.But I said to him that the true God has a son c…[Read more]

KJ said to me that this topic can be opened.Feel free to put your 2 cents worth in.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 19 2011,21:10)I am not digging a hole for myself. You are showing that you do not understand essence.Sorry, but I measure 2 more feet down after your last post.

KJ, your dreaming once again. Time to awake from the slumber.If Adam wasn't an individual before Eve, then what was he? And one of the meanings of individual is “A person considered alone, rather than as belonging to a group of people”.You are so blind when it comes to language that talks about a person/individual and  nature. That includes not…[Read more]

KJ is not answering because he knows he lost this debate.But he is not man enough to admit it.It is best to be humble and honest and admit when you are wrong KJ. Why? Because it helps others out.I am going to challenge you to a new debate soon. You haven't finished with me yet.

KJ, you can identify nature/species, and you can identify individuals. You can identify anything. A mountain, a car, a bank, and a brand. You can even identify good and bad quality. Where you trip up KJ is pretty obvious to most to see, but for some reason you are either blind or stubborn, but which ever it is, the effect is the same. You would no…[Read more]

“I am” is a translation from Greek words “ego eimi”. Is the mere utterance of “ego eimi” a blasphemy? Does the use of “ego eimi” automatically identify the speaker as Yahweh?Gabriel said, “Ego eimi Gabriel.” In John 9:9, the blind man whose sight was restored by Jesus said, “Ego eimi.” In Acts 10:21, Peter said, “Behold, ego eimi (I am) he whom ye…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 19 2011,05:07)Show where God called the woamn “Eve.” It explicitly says that the man named her “Eve.” God named them both “Adam.”And God called them (the male and the female) “Adam” (Genesis 5:1-2).You show your comtempt for the word of God. KJGod called the race/species, man.God then gave Adam the authority to name…[Read more]