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    That is how I see it Mike.The body goes to dust, the spirit goes back to God leaving the soul. But once the spirit enters the soul again, it becomes a living soul.The difference between the soul and spirit is like the bone and marrow.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Is God evil? in the forum Faith 15 years, 1 month ago

    I should also mention that those who reject God, rightly do not get to live forever with the one who they CHOOSE to reject.I think that you should understand that. After all it is very fair. I don't like you, love you, and do not even acknowledge you exist. And then God says live with me forever anyway. Na. Doesn't work like that.You see you get…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Is God evil? in the forum Faith 15 years, 1 month ago

    God created all including doing the opposite of what he intended.It is called free will.Why have free will?If he didn't give us free will, we would be robots that were programmed to love and be obedient.However the very definition of love has free will built into it.Imagine your wife loves you because she has no other option.Or imagine your wife…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Aug. 27 2011,01:04)I don't understand your point about a complete opposite needed. What do you mean by that? What we are talking about is the positive identification on a large scale of a direct relationship between genetics and “religiosity”. This means there are god genes, although that might be too simplistic a term for…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,06:54)Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritThat is false Kathi.Jehovah (YHWH) is the only God and in the New Testament, this God not only has a son, but is the true God and Father of us all, even of Jesus Christ.You are not speaking truth on this topic Kathi.

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    I would be concerned about your teaching Kathi. When you inject your understanding of God into scripture, then nearly all scripture in the New Testament breaks when you replace God with Binity or Compound Unity Substance.Don't let pride harden your heart. Be open and honest. This is a requirement if you want to walk on the path of truth and hear…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 29 2011,07:26)My answer to Mike,I can't answer for satan, nor will I entertain what was on his mind.  Sorry but I am not going to discuss what he may or may not have thought.  You can respect that or not.  I already told you before you made this thread that I will not spend my time on this, I only answer now to give a re…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Is God evil? in the forum Faith 15 years, 2 months ago

    Is God evil.Are we evil if we allow our sons and daughters to drive a car?Yet they can potentially kill a person with a car.Likewise God is not evil if someone drowns someone in water because God created water. It is the one who chooses to do evil that is responsible.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2011,02:01)John 8:24 is mistranslated.  Earlier manuscripts do not have the added words.  You knew that probably though didn't you.John 8:24 That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.”You are interested in truth, right?  Choose newer translations ov…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2011,03:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 03 2011,23:32)Thanks Paul!  Glory to God, Paul's back :)Which ONE of your TWO Almighty Gods are you giving the glory to this time, Kathi?  :)  I wonder if Paul realizes that you openly acknowledge your belief in and worship of TWO completely separate Almighty Gods, Kathi.I also wonder if…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Gene,We should discuss this in the appropriate thread.I will make a reply there based on that scripture that talks about the body, soul, and spirit in scripture which appears different to body + spirit = soul.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y309529

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 13 2011,01:02)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,12:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 12 2011,07:58)T8………Here is something to think about. Let say i went to a field and took a seed from a plant like a bell pepper or squash or tomato. and waited a year and Planted it what would come up ? A different kind of Bell pepper? a…[Read more]

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    Hi david.I don't disagree with you.In fact I know that “in the midst” is also a contender.I haven't read your post yet coz it is a bit long and I have been very busy in my job.Doesn't mean I won't read it though.And I concur with Mike. I don't disregard anything because of the messenger/denomination.I think the search for truth doesn't include…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 12 2011,11:13)Quote I already gave you the money for the brain transplant. I know this is now off topic, but:Could there ever be such a thing as a brain transplant?Or would that be a body transplant?Something to think about.IF I was going to take a punt, I would say the soul is inside the control panel of the brain somewhere.…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,03:56)Hi All,IMO, the soul is like a computer hard drive.  It is our intellect and our memories and completely who we are.Our spirit is like a USB/Power cable plugged into us.  It not only give us the electricity needed to power our “hard drive”, but can also feed us information via “God's internet”.Our body is s…[Read more]

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    Quote Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,11:49)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 12 2011,00:13)Sorry, I got that somewhat mixed up, the body without the Soul is death….The Soul is the Spirit then, right the breath of life, that goes back to God who gave it….But what happens when we get a new spirit?Are we a different person. I mean when I received the spirit of God,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 12 2011,12:26)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,11:49)But what happens when we get a new spirit?Are we a different person. I mean when I received the spirit of God, I was still me, but with a new spirit inside. And I am not my body because that will be replaced too.My point is that WE get a new body and spirit. So if both are replaced…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 12 2011,07:58)T8………Here is something to think about. Let say i went to a field and took a seed from a plant like a bell pepper or squash or tomato. and waited a year and Planted it what would come up ? A different kind of Bell pepper? a different Kind of squash, a different kind of Tomato , the obvious answer is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 12 2011,00:13)Sorry, I got that somewhat mixed up, the body without the Soul is death….The Soul is the Spirit then, right the breath of life, that goes back to God who gave it….But what happens when we get a new spirit?Are we a different person. I mean when I received the spirit of God, I was still me, but with a new…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 11 2011,16:16)It's reasonable to assume that if a team of 100+ grammarians are assigned to the task of translating a bible version that there would be a wide diversity of theological views in a group that size, thereby minimising the margin for error. It's a good safeguard for bias and mitigates what can happen when a small…[Read more]

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