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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    We need to also remember that “I AM” in the Old Testament is a different set of words from different languages to the New Testament instances. It would be like saying that “I am” in English is equating one with God for it is the word used by God in Hebrew. That is simply not true. Many say “I am” in the New Testament just as they say those words…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,13:36)t8,Can you see the point I'm trying to make to Kathi that if “I AM” is the Name of God, then even in the Trinitarian's imagination, Jesus saying the words “I am” in John 8:58 would only amount to Jesus SAYING GOD'S NAME.  It would never amount to Jesus saying HE IS the one to whom that name belongs, would…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    Wrong Lightenup. He never claimed to be the I AM of the Old Testament. He never blasphemed.Show me one scripture and I will show you why you are reading it wrongly.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,12:27)That's why I'm confused that you now seem to be linking the spirit with the soul, as if they are one thing.Spirit and soul are 2 different words, but I was looking at the possibility that it might be possible that the spirit of man is the soul and the spirit of God is obviously the spirit/breath of God. I…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,12:27)Our spirit is like a USB/Power cable plugged into us.This is the pneuma that makes our soul live.This is why I agree with your assessment. The breath of God is what makes us live.Pneuma is breath which has these uses in the KJV:Spirit, Holy Ghost, Spirit (of God), Spirit (of the Lord), (My) Spirit, Spirit (of…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,10:30)Wait a minute.  I thought t8 and Pierre agreed that spirit, soul, and body were THREE different things.  Now it seems as if they think they are only TWO different things, with the spirit BEING the soul.I stand convinced that they are indeed THREE separate and distinct things.Still three things.Flesh, s…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago

    Good point Pierre.

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    Princess have you gone over to the dark side.Bing is owned by the Microsoft Empire.Thankfully Google is winning the war.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Emmanuel in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    Many names in scripture have the name of God in them.Emanuel like those other names references God and doesn't make the one who has that name to be God.Many names contain Ya, theo, and El and we may not recognise that from reading an English translation.But here are a few names you might recognise.Theodore, Theodora, Theo, Joshua, Eliyah,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 17 2011,02:14)Mike,Your substituting the name 'Jehovah' for the 'I AM' is not an equivalent substitution and does not fit. It would not fit in Exodus 3:14 either, see here…God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'”Now with your substitution of…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years ago

    Who did Jesus claim to be?He claimed to be the son of God and the Messiah.It is amazing that this should even be contested among believers, but some men in the past who came from among us have spread false doctrine that make their followers imagine all kinds of vain things about who and what Jesus is.This kind of activity is especially popular…[Read more]

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    This is a hard one to vote for because it didn't have enough options IMO. Jesus is the Word and was the Word that was with God.Of course he could well be the angel of the LORD too, as angel means messenger.We know that he existed in the FORM of God (Not God himself) or with divine nature.So I would vote Angel of those 3 options, but that could be…[Read more]

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    It's a good verse Ed because it says both:he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.I think it is absolutely possible that the Kingdom of God is in us and among us. Other references to the Kingdom as being among us is not necessarily contradictory if Jesus says, the Kingdom is within us. The only other time on record when Jesus said “entos” was…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 15 2011,09:33)t8 All is possible with God…. But reading all again, it goes both ways at times… Some Scriptures plainly state it is the Spirit in man, and other times it is the Soul….Georg believes it is used interchangeably…. IreneI agree it us used interchangeably too.Here is one way I reckon it.We have a spirit/soul…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,02:09)Hi t8,I think what David has been asking is:  “WHY would you use it the same way?  If the word can mean “within”, but it can also mean “in your midst”, what other scriptures do you have to SUPPORT the “within” definition in Luke 17:21?”I gave the only other scripture that uses the same word 'entos'.Matthew 2…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,03:20)Hi Gene,How about these verses?Even the of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (John 14:17)Rom.14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 17 2011,14:21)OK, I'm starting to get the idea that this is a main argument used to support the “kingdom of God is within people” idea.Here is why it is a bad argument:the holy spirit is not God's kingdom.An observant person would however see that the things of God and the relationship we have with God is from within.So I guess…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 16 2011,18:14)First,you didn't use “scriptures,” you used one scripture:”I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”Secondly, I believe it is applicable to believers, but not all believers.  When quoting this, we should also include the next verse;”Unless anyone is born from water and…[Read more]

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    Yes Mike it is not about JWs.I was replying to one though, so I was giving him some reasons why the Kingdom of God is within us, using scriptures that david doesn't think is applicable to believers, (born again) hence I kind of shortened the process of toing and froing by cutting to the chase.And I agree that the Kingdom if it is within us was in…[Read more]

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    OK.The Kingdom of God is invisible.david, your organisation is visible, I see them once every 5 years on average.Your organisation also doesn't believe that we can be born again.But Jesus taught this to a Pharisee of all people:“I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”So the kingdom can only be seen or…[Read more]

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