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    Quote (ftk @ Jan. 30 2012,22:34)t8:  Gene is right on target with this doctrine! All doctrine is knowledge, information thoughts, spirit and it is either Truth from God, which is eternal and stands forever….or it is distorted knowledge, information and thinking, that is not Gods truth,  which is an ''illusion'' of truth. Illusion of truth is n…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 7 months ago

    How about we curb all the quotes within quotes.I gave up reading here as there are too many with one or 2 new lines at the bottom.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2012,06:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2012,06:29)T8…………..Please go read the PDF File Frank Posted for me you will find it quite enlightening if you read it with an open mind at least this one and come back and let talk about it.  You like Scholar opinions well yopu can get it there, perhaps there is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2012,10:42)T8……….Wrong the LOGOS became FLESH (IN) Jesus. The Logos is NOT JESUS, Jesus plainly said the FATHER who is the LOGOS was (IN,IN,IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, ) HIM. When are you going to (START) to Believe JESUS T8 ? Peace and love to you and yours………………………………geneWHERE…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Frank, please refrain from flooding this topic with long posts and links too your site.Try to stay on the topic and not venture to far. Keep it more focused.The first rule of engaging in HN is to not do any of the following:Spamming, flooding, or flaming in the forums or the PM service.Many posts for the purpose of links is spam and flooding a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 28 2012,08:42)John 1 Properly Translated by the Late Professor of the Exegesis of Holy Scripture at the University of OxfordSome people say, “I don't need scholars. I just read my Bible.” This statement contains a hidden fallacy. The Bible you read (unless you are reading the Greek and Hebrew) comes to you via a scholar…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 27 2012,01:11)T8……….It is not a Satan who is the rulers of this word it is Men in HIGH PLACES who rule this world, Your Satan is not a GOD of anything it is a Spirit of Evil working in the hearts and minds of Men who rule  this world. You attribute that to one being Satan you call a GOD, but i see the rulers of…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 8 months ago

    bodhitharta, that about sums up that doctrine.It is funny. Not sure whether I should have been laughing though.

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    HI Wakeup. A couple of things.1) You don't need to quote a whole post if you are posting straight after it.2) Did you get this teaching from a particular denomination. If so, which one.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Who is your Lord in the forum Faith 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,10:50)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 28 2012,06:35)God is LORD (YHWH) and Jesus is Lord (kurios). They are 2 different words and you haven't catered for that in your poll.Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”So the poll is incomplete because…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 28 2012,07:55)Since most if not all other Scriptures indicate Yahshua did not pre-exist except in Yahweh's plan, * it is my view that the words in Philippians 2:5-11 should be accepted at face value, as words are normally used in a natural sense. However, people love a mystery so much that one is sometimes invented where…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 29 2011,21:43)Mass Death of Birds and Fish: Is There a Cover Up?“Unless you've been living beneath a rock for the past month or so, you couldn't have missed the bizarre reports of birds falling from the sky and dead fish littering shores in various parts of the world, mainly in the US, but also in Canada, Sweden, Italy,…[Read more]

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    Georg, where is Irene.I hope all is good with her.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Who is your Lord in the forum Faith 14 years, 8 months ago

    God is LORD (YHWH) and Jesus is Lord (kurios). They are 2 different words and you haven't catered for that in your poll.Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”So the poll is incomplete because one is YHWH and the other was made kurios over his creation. Where is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 22 2012,04:17)Can a spirit being die? More exactly: Can deity (a divine personage) die? If Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed as Deity, or as a Spiritual Being before the world was created, was it possible for him to die (on the tree)? Let the Scriptures answer.Some good points here Frank. Except in the case of Jesus he…[Read more]

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    Quote (toby @ Jan. 27 2012,11:00)You cannot use the word “BODY” to ascribe meaning to another word that is patently described as being “NOT A BODY”.A body is a container.Our body is a container that contains what we are.We are not our body.But are we given a spiritual body. Is spirit invisible. Is a body visible. Jesus is the image of the…[Read more]

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    Remember that when Jesus came in the flesh, he emptied himself and humbled himself to the point of death. But God's Spirit dwelt in him too.During his time here he said:By myself I can do nothing – Jesus Christ.Then when he died and was risen from the dead he said:All power has been given to me – Jesus Christ.Also ask yourself. Who is greater, the…[Read more]

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    ftk, this world is not the new world or Kingdom of God. If we love this world, then the love of the Father is not in us. Simple as that.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,12:29)I believe as Jesus said , GOD so “LOVED THE WORLD” He gave his only begotten Son , that whosoever believes in him should not parish but have everlasting life. So God himslef loves this world and has set himself to deliver all creation “FROM IT BONDAGE”. THAT BONDAGE IS ALLOWED BY GOD and He will deliver it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,12:29)T8…………Who ever said this world is the kingdom of GOD. I would appreciate if you would deal with my POSTS. I said God the Father is the ONLY “TRUE” GOD of {ALL} creation.Exactly. The world is not the Kingdom of God, thus God is not the God or King of the world. That is the point I am making. God or…[Read more]

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