The answer has always been simple.If Adam is one man, and adam is all men, then Theos is one God and theos can be all that have his nature or authority of that Theos.And can we not partake in divine nature just as we partook in Adam's nature.Confusion around Theos and Elohim is caused when you use these words to define WHO Theos or Elohim when you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,17:20)Hi Everyone,Me and David have been discussing if this is possible.I say it is not only possible, but true as well.It can be compared to a “Paradox”. Instead of arguing past misconceptions, are both sides nowwilling to look at the evidence that I will produce concerning this?God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,11:31)Hi T8, The bread of life is the Word of God. Jesus CHRIST is the Word. He spoke the words of God by the SpiritAnd the Word was WITH God in the beginning.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,10:51)Hi T8, Yes he did speak for himself as when he said he was thirsty. But the words from God in him burned themselves into the minds of his apostles and they wrote them down.Yes that is true and we all agree with that.So was Paul wrong when he said in Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty,…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 14 2012,16:13)also if you use your spiritual insight, He tells you who He is in v58.58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. EXODUS 3:14 ………….Tell the children of Israel that I AM has sent me to you.Marlin, if I said to you, “are you Marlin?” you could well answer with, “I…[Read more]

To those who say that Jesus existed in no other form before being a man, I need to remind you that it is written that he EXISTED in the form of God.Think about what the word EXISTED means.And if you do not agree with that scripture, then you also cannot agree that Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”. What does I am mean? Look it up.

If we simply read with no bias about Jesus, then all things written in scripture about him have to be considered. A student of scripture does not pick and choose what he wants because you can almost prove anything with that method.I know as a photographer, that a good photo is often what is not in the picture as much as what is in it. I can take…[Read more]

Nick.We have to cater for all scripture, not just certain ones. It is easy to take the scriptures that talk of Jesus as a man, and apply this understanding to our experience as men, and thus apply a beginning when we are born or conceived.However, Jesus was obviously different in the sense that his Father was not earthly like our fathers.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2012,16:12)Hi T8,Did Yahshua speak the words given him by God?Yes and as a man he also would have said things like “pass the bread and water please”.The idea that he was a hollowed out shell and God was the only thing inside is absurd. Jesus even said, “Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me f…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2012,08:57)T8,Hebrews 1New International Version (NIV)1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. Looking at these passages it seems…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2012,23:28)T8………..Lets be truthful here do you or don't you believe Jesus was Morphed from some Past Life or not? You are  a staunch supporter of a Preexistent Jesus, and to deny that would be a false statement on your present position T8.Gene, let's get something straight before I proceed. I am a staunch…[Read more]

Of course I am willing to accept anything that is true.I just can't get over the idea that the sword of the Spirit is the Word and the Word is the Spirit and thus the sword of the Spirit is the word of the Word.Sorry but that is the truth. To me the truth adds up and the word of the Word doesn't add up to me.Anyhow we can discuss this further in…[Read more]

Jesus said, “before Abraham, I am”.I believe it and some others do not.Your choice. What more can be said?

Yes christos is the anointing and Jesus Christ was the annointed one, no one is disagreeing with that from what I can tell.That said, what does that have to do with Jesus existing in the form of God, emptying himself, becoming flesh, humbling himself, dying for our sins, and rising from the dead to be in the glory that he had with the Father…[Read more]

I have said this a number of times and no one can refute this because I am really just quoting scripture, albeit I have abbreviated it into my own words. Yet men here grit their teeth when I say this and it can all be shown as scripture.He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, partook of flesh, humbled himself, died, rose from the dead, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2012,11:10)Hi T8, We need strong evidence.You need strong evidence to teach something as truth. Very strong. But I don't throw away possibilities because some things are only discovered when one delves into scripture and bringing it to the light one can possibly prove it or disprove it by scripture.Nowhere in scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2012,13:00)T8………..Come on you do support the idea that Jesus was a “MORPHED” AngelWith a comment like that, it shows you are not listening to me. No point in dialog with you is there.

Yes I think it does stack up in what you have provided.It sums it all up in one piece of text.He was called a man, an angel, the angel, and was equated with seeing God.How many angels are called men, THE angel as opposed to an angel, and is equated with seeing God.Whoever he is, he is very special that much is for sure.

Let's look at this with some context.54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.56 Your father Abraham…[Read more]

I can't remember that, but I likely agree with you about the Kingdom of God.I too believe it is a kingdom of which God is the ultimate authority.What was it exactly that I disagreed with?