Quote (david @ Feb. 21 2012,20:31)What is this stuff about the numbers?   And, on an unrelated topic, does .999… equal exactly and precisely 1?  Algebra suggests it does.I have been debating with Stu over the 3 possible options for how the universe got there.1) God2) Nothing3) Something eternal but not aware or intelligent. (NOTE: this option h…[Read more]

Thanks TimothyVI.But I think that he already believes in a kind of magic.A universe from nothing or something eternal that doesn't possess life which is the very thing it produced.Everything from nothing or life from no life. Magic at its best.Right up there with all the numbers from zero alone. Or awareness of numbers from numbers alone.

Quote (david @ Feb. 19 2012,18:38)I was gone a while.  Has stu left the building?He might have been trying to figure out how to produce a whole number using only zero to start with.If that is not correct, then my next best guess is how infinity can become conscious.If he did neither, then no point in conversing with him because he will have no…[Read more]

You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from religious indoctrination received in youth.Albert.

It is an intentional parody used to make a point.

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,11:48)Quote Do you realize that many churches make up that one church that you speak of?kathi,I believe you have this slightly wrong.  The one true church is not made up of CHURCHES,  it is made up of true believers out of many churches.  Not all members of a certain church are His.  For many church members will com…[Read more]

LU.Nick is right.”Geography only divides the commited members.”So the churches is simply localities where the body reside and fellowship.And you are right.”Do you see that many churches make up the one body of Christ? Do you also see that the 'one body' is one church at large?”Matthew 16“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will…[Read more]

OK this thread is about the Toronto Blessing.Sorry for getting off the subject.

Edj.It is possible for an attribute of God to be a person too.In fact that is what a person is.An embodiment of God's characteristics.Jesus said he was the truth. Does that mean that God is not true or that Jesus is the truth without compromising truth in God himself?Of course the latter is the case.

Hi cavedave.Welcome and thanks for your views.I agree that Jesus is not God/YHWH/the Most High.He is the son of God and the messiah.Jesus used this truth as the foundation for his Church.The best way to attack any organisation or structure is to attack the foundation.

What I am doing Edj is saying that scripture says that there is one God the Father, and the creeds that many hold to say that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.So then I say, do you believe in a creed over scripture? And it appears that many will defend the creed, even when you point out the scripture and many others.Simple…[Read more]

In case you want to play Edj, I have 3 questions Edj.1) Why do people pay to go up tall buildings, then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground?2) Why does The Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star have the same tune?3) Does pushing the elevator button more than once make it arrive faster?

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,19:13)1. Paradox: A seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true. (David: Yes)2. Dichotomy: Division into two usually contradictory parts or opinions. (T8: Yes)3. Do you believe that some Scripture is written on more than one…[Read more]

What is the point of this thread?Is it to compromise truth and say that both God is a Trinity and there is one God the Father are the same thing?Because my view is that God's truth is greater than any man.Thus I would tend to show more respect for truth than try and make a person happy because he doesn't believe something to be true.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,11:58)Mike,You can wait till your blue in the face. The evidence I have presented, take it or leave it. Your choice!“I think therefore I am.” I am means I exist.Jesus said, “Before Abraham I am”.Believe it or not.I believe it because Jesus sheep hear his voice and Jesus said it and I want to hear his voice.What…[Read more]

Hi david.I had a read of a few pages and from what I can tell, I think we didn't disagree on this.I made some points such as:The sons of God are those who are lead by God's spirit.Our spirits bear witness with God's spirit that we are the sons of God.Therefore if the Earth is in the process of redemption but is not fully redeemed, then is it…[Read more]

A triune God is not one God the Father.God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit is not one God the Father.Looks like a dichotomy.For us there is one God the Father.Amazing that men will come up with anything to try and change that.I just don't understand what men gain in doing so.But it is their life and will.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,12:52)It is most definitely written that Yahshua EXISTED in the form of Yahweh. When this was written, it was well after Yahshua had EXISTED HERE ON EARTH (or “IN THE WORLD”). This passage as follows is not speaking of Yahshua pre-existing in Heaven with his and our Father Yahweh as an actual being, but is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,10:53)Hi T8, Jesus Christ is one with God's Spirit.He is the same yesterday today and forever. But Jesus was conceived in MaryNick.He existed in the form of God before being conceived as a man. It is written.The man from heaven.