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Proclaimer started the topic Parody Of Our Modern Church Service in the forum 14 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
LU.Nick is right.”Geography only divides the commited members.”So the churches is simply localities where the body reside and fellowship.And you are right.”Do you see that many churches make up the one body of Christ? Do you also see that the 'one body' is one church at large?”Matthew 16“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
OK this thread is about the Toronto Blessing.Sorry for getting off the subject.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Edj.It is possible for an attribute of God to be a person too.In fact that is what a person is.An embodiment of God's characteristics.Jesus said he was the truth. Does that mean that God is not true or that Jesus is the truth without compromising truth in God himself?Of course the latter is the case.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Hi cavedave.Welcome and thanks for your views.I agree that Jesus is not God/YHWH/the Most High.He is the son of God and the messiah.Jesus used this truth as the foundation for his Church.The best way to attack any organisation or structure is to attack the foundation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
What I am doing Edj is saying that scripture says that there is one God the Father, and the creeds that many hold to say that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.So then I say, do you believe in a creed over scripture? And it appears that many will defend the creed, even when you point out the scripture and many others.Simple…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
In case you want to play Edj, I have 3 questions Edj.1) Why do people pay to go up tall buildings, then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground?2) Why does The Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star have the same tune?3) Does pushing the elevator button more than once make it arrive faster?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,19:13)1. Paradox: A seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true. (David: Yes)2. Dichotomy: Division into two usually contradictory parts or opinions. (T8: Yes)3. Do you believe that some Scripture is written on more than one…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
What is the point of this thread?Is it to compromise truth and say that both God is a Trinity and there is one God the Father are the same thing?Because my view is that God's truth is greater than any man.Thus I would tend to show more respect for truth than try and make a person happy because he doesn't believe something to be true.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,11:58)Mike,You can wait till your blue in the face. The evidence I have presented, take it or leave it. Your choice!“I think therefore I am.” I am means I exist.Jesus said, “Before Abraham I am”.Believe it or not.I believe it because Jesus sheep hear his voice and Jesus said it and I want to hear his voice.What…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Kingdom–In the hearts of the Pharisees? in the forum Debates 14 years, 7 months ago
Hi david.I had a read of a few pages and from what I can tell, I think we didn't disagree on this.I made some points such as:The sons of God are those who are lead by God's spirit.Our spirits bear witness with God's spirit that we are the sons of God.Therefore if the Earth is in the process of redemption but is not fully redeemed, then is it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
A triune God is not one God the Father.God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit is not one God the Father.Looks like a dichotomy.For us there is one God the Father.Amazing that men will come up with anything to try and change that.I just don't understand what men gain in doing so.But it is their life and will.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,12:52)It is most definitely written that Yahshua EXISTED in the form of Yahweh. When this was written, it was well after Yahshua had EXISTED HERE ON EARTH (or “IN THE WORLD”). This passage as follows is not speaking of Yahshua pre-existing in Heaven with his and our Father Yahweh as an actual being, but is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,10:53)Hi T8, Jesus Christ is one with God's Spirit.He is the same yesterday today and forever. But Jesus was conceived in MaryNick.He existed in the form of God before being conceived as a man. It is written.The man from heaven.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
The answer has always been simple.If Adam is one man, and adam is all men, then Theos is one God and theos can be all that have his nature or authority of that Theos.And can we not partake in divine nature just as we partook in Adam's nature.Confusion around Theos and Elohim is caused when you use these words to define WHO Theos or Elohim when you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can both Trinity & non-Trinity be correct? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,17:20)Hi Everyone,Me and David have been discussing if this is possible.I say it is not only possible, but true as well.It can be compared to a “Paradox”. Instead of arguing past misconceptions, are both sides nowwilling to look at the evidence that I will produce concerning this?God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham was, I am. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,11:31)Hi T8, The bread of life is the Word of God. Jesus CHRIST is the Word. He spoke the words of God by the SpiritAnd the Word was WITH God in the beginning.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham was, I am. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,10:51)Hi T8, Yes he did speak for himself as when he said he was thirsty. But the words from God in him burned themselves into the minds of his apostles and they wrote them down.Yes that is true and we all agree with that.So was Paul wrong when he said in Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham was, I am. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 14 2012,16:13)also if you use your spiritual insight, He tells you who He is in v58.58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. EXODUS 3:14 ………….Tell the children of Israel that I AM has sent me to you.Marlin, if I said to you, “are you Marlin?” you could well answer with, “I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
To those who say that Jesus existed in no other form before being a man, I need to remind you that it is written that he EXISTED in the form of God.Think about what the word EXISTED means.And if you do not agree with that scripture, then you also cannot agree that Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”. What does I am mean? Look it up.

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