Quote (Stu @ July 07 2012,16:30)Hope you haven't been burning them at the stake.StuartNo we prefer imprisonment in a dark dungeon.

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 09 2012,22:38)Why delusions are so hard to overcome (unsure of author) There is only one certain barrier to truth the conviction that you already have it.That is true. Although if you have the truth it should have that conviction. But if you have a conviction for something that is not true, then it appears to be hard for…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2012,03:57)T8………..Interesting , you can produce not one scriptures that shows any activity of Jesus before his berth on this earthGene, what is more interesting is your question.Jesus emptied himself and came as a human baby and grew in like manner to us.Now that he is in the glory that the had with the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,20:16)Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came from himself? You probably need a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2012,05:10)T8………..But you can Preach the “DELUSION” of a PREEXISTENT JESUS and that is OK , right? interesting condemn others exempt yourself>Many here have shown over the years what you preach is a Delusion on this subject of “Preexistence” but you assume them of preaching Delusions and not your. Now that is…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 08 2012,01:00)Actually I see it as a three prong attack against those searching for truth:1) Deny God – Evolution is a major tool.2) False gods – Started 6,000 years ago with self (“be like God”), alien is one of the newer ones.3) Distort God – Loss of a balanced scriptural view, drive teachings to an extreme. One point…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2012,02:17)T8.There are some that teach of the non existance of satan as a creature,is a delusion.wakeup.True that.That is a major deception too.

Here is how I see this system of deceptions work.Give a person Evolution and deny them God.If they are smart enough to realise that we are created, then give them the idea that the creator is an alien species who genetically modified us.If they don't fall for any of the above two and believe in a creator outside of creation, then give them the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 06 2012,17:57)T8;Jesus was made with a human nature but that does not justify substituting that fact for the fact he chose to serve God. I assure you that not all humans willingly serve Jehovah. The inner human nature is the flesh nature as it falls short of the godly nature. It is the godly nature that compels one to…[Read more]

Stu are you still speaking with authority on a subject you have little clue about.Yes it appears you are.Go back and do some serious research and then return when you have got something to back up your view or enlighten us if you see the light.Thanks.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,14:53)I claim what Father Yahweh has claimed in His inspired prophetic word and that is that He “ALONE”, “BY HIMSELF” with “NO ONE BESIDE HIM” created the heavens and the earth and ALL things in them. I believe that those FEW small GREEK words are more appropriately translated as “because of”, “for” or “on…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,14:25)Mike,I really do not believe that you and kerwin “are trying to find out if that phrase refers to Jesus in John 1:1 and 1:14.” I believe that you already have this preconceived belief engrained into your mind and you are doing anything in an attempt to convince kerwin otherwise to what it is that he…[Read more]

Hi david. I don't think anyone in this thread is making the point that it was grounded men. Rather resurrected men or heavenly angels.I think it is possible that it was the two resurrected men that appeared with Jesus when he was transfigured. It is certainly circumstantial and worth considering as a possibility. And the fact that two gospels…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,09:17)Well, I am trying to see what all you guys really believe I should do after all you are all Christians so as a Christian should you study the numbers that ED presents?The bible teaches that God is the Father and God has a son, Jesus Christ.God sent his son into the world to die for humanities sins and rose…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,14:58)Quote (t8 @ July 06 2012,10:59)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,12:40)To Those Who Do Understand,Father Yahweh's word is not a separate person, being, “god”, or “an angel.”And the Word was WITH GOD.The Word became flesh.He is called “The Word of God”.Have another go Frank because we clearly believe this…[Read more]

Good questions Mike. I hope he gives an answer.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,14:58)Quote (t8 @ July 06 2012,10:59)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,12:40)To Those Who Do Understand,Father Yahweh's word is not a separate person, being, “god”, or “an angel.”And the Word was WITH GOD.The Word became flesh.He is called “The Word of God”.Have another go Frank because we clearly believe this…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 06 2012,04:40)T8……….Why can't you see i am not talking about the CHOICE begin a FREE “CHOICE”, I am talking about the WILL (ITSELF) is not FREE, becasue it is influenced and what ever you Chose it will be the result of “YOUR” WILL, and that WILL “ITSELF” is NOT FREE, even though you are give a “FREE” CHOICE. All…[Read more]

The god particle if it exists was created by God.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,12:40)To Those Who Do Understand,Father Yahweh's word is not a separate person, being, “god”, or “an angel.”And the Word was WITH GOD.The Word became flesh.He is called “The Word of God”.Have another go Frank because we clearly believe this and you deny it, even though it is written.