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    Yeah. Nike actually made those shoes. But they cost $3500 a pair.

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    Stu you lack understanding. There are a number of errors in your post as to what the bible actually says.Nice try, but this is a fail for you. Have another go. Poor fellow that Stu. Spent the best time of the week making mistakes by himself on a subject that he is passionate about and also equates with Pink Unicorns. I myself cannot see the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2012,18:00)Stu.What exactly do you live for?Just work; eat; sleep;have some fun;grow old in a home and die,and the grave.Stu will die like all men do.And it will be something he will face alone and he won't be so brave when he reflects on how he spent his life.Imagine his surprise when he realises that life had eternal…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2012,18:00)Stu.What exactly do you live for?Just work; eat; sleep;have some fun;grow old in a home and die,and the grave.Stu will die like all men do.Then it will be something he will face alone.Imagine his surprise when he realises that life had eternal meaning and consequences.Maybe he will realise the gift that he…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 21 2012,23:55)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 21 2012,17:59)Instead we are only required to give honour to that sourceWhy should you be required to do that?StuartThe same reason you would give honour to your own father, but even more so. Or why your own children should honour you as their father.

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    “That they may know the ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus Christ whom HE has sent.Funny how something as clear as that can be twisted by a person with a twisted view.A person of sound mind can see the manipulation as clear as day.You need help Kathi. This is not a game. It is eternal life.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    What do you chose Kathi.1) Jesus is Lord (Kurios)2) Jesus is YHWH (LORD)I choose 1).

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,20:44)Jesus is only Lord to you if He is not YHWH the Son who is the Lord of lords. Isn't that right, t8?1 Cor 12:3Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holines…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,20:28)I can pass this test, no problem.I have told you that in some contexts 'God/the God' will be the Father, in some contexts 'God/the God' will be the Son (which proves your doctrine wrong) and in some contexts 'God/the God' will be the unity.But there are also angels, men, false gods too and your unity doesn't…[Read more]

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    Kathi. YHWH made Jesus both Lord (kurios) and Christ.It really is that simple.Of course, the one who made him Lord over his creation would be over him.But for us and creation, God made Jesus our Lord. And the Father is God.Ephesians 1:17 I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,17:11)Is Jesus the Lord of YOUR life?Yes. And his Father is my God.My Lord and my God.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,21:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)Mike,I think this sums things up to show that Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God with the Father:I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself……………I enjoy your sense of humor, Kathi.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 02 2012,17:01)Kathi, what sane person would even utter those words?Maybe an 'in' person?

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.So you admit that Israel is HIM because Israel is one nation.Why don't you just say it was right instead of not publicly acknowledging it and trying to enforce another point that just happened to also be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:17)The Father gave His Son His name YHWH before creation.There you go dreaming again.When are you going to wake up.

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    Yes son is not there. It is just 'of'. Although all the others are not said to be sons either, even though they are. Which was of Joanna, which was of Rhesa, which was of Zorobabel, …The point is that he was from God, but the point didn't relate anything to what we were discussing anyway.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:17)Adam is not called the son of God in the genealogies check your interlinear the word 'son' is not there.Okay I will check it out. It was not an important point however. It was a side note as to what I was saying.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.Technically that could work, but it completely contradicts scripture making you wrong. These prove you are wrong and as I said before they also prove that Trinitarians are wrong. I could prove you wrong…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,18:05)Well, is Adam called the 'son of God?' Not technically from what I can recall. Maybe I missed something.Anyway, it is besides the point. I wasn't proving that Adam was or was not called the 'son of God,' I was proving that Adam the father could name his son Adam and they would both be identified as Adam with…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,17:32)Is a nation a group of beings?Yes or No?In this verse, is the word 'his' a pronoun that has as its antecedent a group of beings?Yes of No?Let Israel be glad in his Maker; Let the sons of Zion rejoice in their KingSorry Kathi because this so-called proof is not proof at all.Israel is one nation, hence HIM. The…[Read more]

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