Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)Together the Father and Son are the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the YHWH Echad, the eternal unity.No Kathi. Scripture teaches otherwise. Let everyone read for themselves and make up their own mind. Once a person subscribes to an external creed, then scripture will be manipulated to support that creed.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Why are you telling me this?

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 03 2012,02:57)In the USA the homicide rate is 5.22 per 100,000 and fully 73% of those people believe in God.If you asked most murderers or the guy who mugged you in Central Park if he had a deep faith in God and loved God, what do you think the majority answer would be. Yes or No?In the USA, you have more freedom. To an…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 03 2012,05:56)I didn't borrow it. That was the name my mother gave me 68 years ago.Getting close to meeting thy maker then. Usually wisdom comes with age which is handy given that you are closer to that day.Maybe you are younger and your mother thought up the name years before you were born. That might be the case given…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,02:40)And what reason would that be?  You still haven't said.StuartIt's okay Stu. Maybe one day when you have kids you might understand such things.Suffice to say, they will either honour you or dishonour you.Should be easy to understand such things. But then you have rejected God and that goes with his laws I…[Read more]

“Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar” is exactly what I was conveying.Read my post again.My point was that if you believe in God and don't believe his testimony, (like the Jews as you said) then you don't really believe..I didn't offer any more or any less than that, and what I said is true even to the scripture you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,14:55)Jesus knows all things besides the day and the hour according to what the disciples said to Him which I already showed you:John 16:30Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.A perfect example of twisting the…[Read more]

Kathi. If you have the Father, then you would believe his testimony that he sent HIS son into the world.If you don't believe that God sent his son, then you don't believe the testimony.It has nothing to do with signing up for the Binity no matter how hard you try to twist it that way. Not all of us are into twisting. Have faith like a child. Be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,02:45)I was just talking about Newton's Laws.You remember Isaac Newton, the genius physicist, potty alchemist and idiot religious zealot. You go on about him often enough.StuartOh that guy. The greatest physicist of all time who happens to be an idiot. And he is an idiot because he believed in God. And he believed that a…[Read more]

Stu, remember some time ago I asked you if you could find another Atheist, perhaps 8 times your intelligence to come here for a debate.Where is he?

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,02:44)So, in other words, you've got no idea.StuartWhere exactly did I say I knew the answer to that?Go back and you will see that I said that some say that the expansion could be the result of something outside our known universe.I just made the point that no one knows for sure what is causing this increased…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,10:04)I've never mastered Christian Mathematics, but then I do have more interesting hobbies to pursue.I have noticed that you struggle in that area. I haven't to this day received a 1, 2, or 3 from you. My 3 year old son counted up to 14 just the other day.1) Creator2) Nothing3) Something not conscious but eternal

WhatIsTrue, if you think fairies are real then that is up to you.Logic doesn't demand that they are true and it is not foolish to deny their existence.It is however absolutely veritably foolish to deny the existence of God.And to equate the creator with fairies shows even a greater level of foolishness.But hey, if believing in fairies also makes…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 02 2012,21:15)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,03:41)Gene if you read the text and order of events as recorded in the gospels, then the indisputable order is this, as it is written:EXISTED in the FORM of God > Emptied himself > Came in flesh > Died > Resurrected > In the glory he had with the Father before the world began.You clearly…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 02 2012,13:38)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,04:42)The crazy thing is Mike is “I am” (Ego Eimi) is mentioned a number of times in scripture by Jesus and other beings such as angels and men and as far as I have read, not one is talking about being a mere memory, but is directly relating the words to them existing.Agreed.  And…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 03 2012,12:17)Even Jesus said Not “MY WILL” but thy Will be done , Why is that if “FREEWILL” was so important.He chose to do God's will even over his own, unlike the Devil who chose his own way and sinned. How hard was that.

Gene, I see that you have chosen to post again.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,09:08)How many theos were involved in the creation of the world?How many theos do we need to know and believe in and serve for our eternal salvation?You are bent on teaching 2 Gods.But if we have God, then we have his son as the result.So it is about God and the test is if we are of God, then we obey his…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,10:38)It is amazing how people point out that one date isn't known by Jesus and forget that He knows everything else.Your dreaming again. Prove to me that this is the only thing that he doesn't know. And he knows all else.It stands to reason that if Jesus doesn't know that date it shows that Jesus only knows what…[Read more]

I will answer again.One THEOS of all who is the Father. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, but I don't get sick of it because it is true.This THEOS delegates his authority through Christ, angels, and men who are also BTW called theos by nature or authority, but not THE one true Most High Theos who is exclusively the Father.If you…[Read more]