I can sense a new creed is about to be born.”One is God and two is God and yet not 2 Gods but one.One is not the other and the other is not the combination of the two.”How does that creed sound. If you like it we could call a council and make it official.Then we could create an army to silence any dissenters.

Kathi, a husband and wife are 2 beings that become one flesh.They are still 1 human + 1 human which equals 2 humans.So let's apply this unity to your unity which you argue proves your unity.The Father and Jesus are together God/YHWH.The Father is God and the son is God.1 God + 1 God still makes 2 Gods.If you say the following, you still get 2…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2012,13:26)Also, Pierre,The word you meant is 'which' not 'witch.'Those two words have completely different meanings.You obviously knew what he was getting at.But I suppose by correcting him in this lesser matter, you give the impression that you are smarter than him and thus are also correcting him on the greater…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,18:16)Paul and I both say that there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.I explained that in the context that speaks of one God being the Father, then Jesus would be the one Lord. Both together with their Spirit would be the one YHWH Echad.Paul is not identifying the Father as the one YHWH or the one God…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 03 2012,02:29)Just cureous T8,which part of stu's post was in error of what the bible says?Mat 4:8 “Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”TimWhen God show shows somethi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2012,15:54)Quote He is theos in the sense that angels and men can be theos. Of course much more than us because he is so much better than the angels and among the sons, he is the prototype. Nevertheless, my point is that he is not the Most High and Only True  Theos.I didn't ask how many Most High and only True theos…[Read more]

The subject of physical and heavenly bodies is a bit of a mystery.Yes we will be transformed just as he was.Our lowly bodies will be transformed into a body like his and he will call us brothers.Looking at this another way. There were sons of God that left their abodes and took for themselves wives from among men. Their offspring were different to…[Read more]

LU, Jesus is seated with the Father, on the Father's throne.We are seated with Christ, on Christ's throne.We will co-rule with Christ just as Christ co-rules with God.I have stated this a number of times too.My view here has always been clear.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,07:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,21:50)t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,06:58)That's true and your answer of one theos is not correct. You deny the Son as another theos that you must believe in, know, and serve for eternal salvation.Sorry. But it is not a requirement to believe that Jesus is 'the other theos'.No. We believe that God made him Lord and Christ and that he is God's son.…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 05 2012,18:41)in what sense is the fourth dimension of space-time “higher” than the other three?StuartProbably in the same way that 3 dimensions are higher than 2 dimensions.Look at the numbers in that sentence. It might help a bit.Quote (Stu @ Nov. 04 2012,19:45)You must be so special.Yes.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 04 2012,01:18)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,22:14)Ha ha. Stu is now a spiritual ape. Yeah right.Should submit that one for the next Tui billboard. Specifically, I don't have to base my spirituality on a denial of the facts of natural history.  What kind of spirituality is that?StuartYou don't believe in God, the spiritual…[Read more]

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Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,19:22)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:54)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2012,02:40)And what reason would that be?  You still haven't said.StuartIt's okay Stu. Maybe one day when you have kids you might understand such things.Suffice to say, they will either honour you or dishonour you.Should be easy to understand such things. But then…[Read more]

Your not making sense Stu.Your talking to humans now, not your ape mates.

Ha ha. Stu is now a spiritual ape. Yeah right.Should submit that one for the next Tui billboard.

Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2012,13:00)1. Organized religion is unnecessary.2..  One Almighty God, 3.  and a firstborn Son who was begotten before the ages, and later sent by his God and our God to be God's sacrificial Lamb to atone for the ever increasing sins of mankind. 4. T8 is the best looking among the three of youCan we add to this list?  The 3…[Read more]

Glad that we had a funny moment.Might as well make Terricca K10 since he came after Mike.T8K9K10Any takers for T9 or K11?

For he has put everything under his feet. Now when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.Let's translate this into the Kathi dialect.For God the Father, not God the Son has put everything under God the Son's feet. Now when it says that everything has been…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)When did Jesus become a theos or was He always a theos according to you?When did angels become theos or elohim?Same question in a way.I will let you ponder such.I have other things to do.