Kerwin. You are allowed to take the same side with the Jews about not believing Jesus words, “before Abraham I am”. Jesus didn't force them to agree with him and neither can we force you.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 04 2012,10:29)Scripture calls Jesus a human.We believe that he was human and that pre-emptying himself, he existed in the form of God.So we believe both accounts that are written and you believe only one and not the other.Not much more can be said. Next.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,16:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,01:02)………why 'should' don't you do those supernatural things that Jesus did……..Are you talking about the many supernatural signs and wonders God did THROUGH his holy servant Jesus Christ?  (Acts 2:22)Yeah. And greater things will some do because he went to the…

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,10:18)Philippians 2:10That in The Name of Yeshua, every knee shall bow, which is in Heaven and in The Earth and which is under The Earth, 11And every tongue shall confess that Yeshua The Messiah is THE LORD JEHOVAH to the glory of God his Father.Reminder: the first commandment.Next reminder: Not in scripture.

Jesus like all men/prophets who were called 'angel' are called that because they were messengers which is the same word. The vast amount of messengers appear to be heavenly being. Seraphs and Cherubs I think.I suspect that we concur on this matter.

BTW, Evolution has a perfect explanation for these giant skeletons.The bigger the organism the stronger they were. They devoured smaller humans.Unfortunately for them, when they fell over they hit the ground with such force that they died. Because there were still closely related apes in their ecosystem, they all eventually succumbed to slipping…[Read more]

Yes this topic did diverge quite a bit. Any chance of putting back on track.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 04 2012,01:19)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,22:17)Your not making sense Stu.Your talking to humans now, not your ape mates.Not sure if you are a mate.  You are certainly an ape.StuartWell I guess since you have never met me personally, then I could well be an ape according to your imagination. I could also be a daffodil.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 07 2012,09:04)Wakeup.Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you would believe a hoax like that. You have been conditioned to lose all ability for rational thinking.TimThere are many hoaxes. The one that says that the universe came not from God, but from nothing is a hoax.Another hoax suggests that the universe has always…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 07 2012,14:27)How can an exact reproduction of something be a prototype?The first reproduction is a prototype and all other reproductions are modeled after the prototype.I hope this clears this up for you.

Well let's see LU.Bearing in mind that scripture calls men/judges, angels, theos”, then you could answer this question yourself. If we take both thrones, those that are seated are the Father, Son, and Sons. Therefore all are theos if we use that word in the scriptural sense that it is applied in scripture.But if your question is how many (THE…[Read more]

LU, you lame excuse that God is means one essense or unity just opens the floodgates to anyone adding as many persons as they like to that unity.Of course the floodgates are already open and many have taken to their chosen number.The LORD thy God is one / Mike, T8, Terr, OthersThe LORD thy God is two / KathiThe LORD thy God is three / KJ, IsThe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,13:00)t8,Kathi openly admits she believes in and worships two, completely separate Almighty Gods.Then she teaches people to break the commandments.In particular the most important one.Matthew 5:19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 04 2012,01:19)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,22:17)Your not making sense Stu.Your talking to humans now, not your ape mates.Not sure if you are a mate.  You are certainly an ape.StuartBy the same logic you are a daffodil too.All life shares much code.

I can sense a new creed is about to be born.”One is God and two is God and yet not 2 Gods but one.One is not the other and the other is not the combination of the two.”How does that creed sound. If you like it we could call a council and make it official.Then we could create an army to silence any dissenters.

Kathi, a husband and wife are 2 beings that become one flesh.They are still 1 human + 1 human which equals 2 humans.So let's apply this unity to your unity which you argue proves your unity.The Father and Jesus are together God/YHWH.The Father is God and the son is God.1 God + 1 God still makes 2 Gods.If you say the following, you still get 2…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2012,13:26)Also, Pierre,The word you meant is 'which' not 'witch.'Those two words have completely different meanings.You obviously knew what he was getting at.But I suppose by correcting him in this lesser matter, you give the impression that you are smarter than him and thus are also correcting him on the greater…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,18:16)Paul and I both say that there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.I explained that in the context that speaks of one God being the Father, then Jesus would be the one Lord. Both together with their Spirit would be the one YHWH Echad.Paul is not identifying the Father as the one YHWH or the one God…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 03 2012,02:29)Just cureous T8,which part of stu's post was in error of what the bible says?Mat 4:8 “Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”TimWhen God show shows somethi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2012,15:54)Quote He is theos in the sense that angels and men can be theos. Of course much more than us because he is so much better than the angels and among the sons, he is the prototype. Nevertheless, my point is that he is not the Most High and Only True  Theos.I didn't ask how many Most High and only True theos…[Read more]