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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,15:37)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2012,02:16)What I am saying is that if JW doctrine has you convinced that there are no gifts of the spirit and that demons do not work in man as we see in the New Testament, then you are forced to deny any instance of either.t8,Perhaps you missed it in David's long posts, but he has…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,15:37)t8,Perhaps you missed it in David's long posts, but he has repeatedly tried to tell you that the JWs DO believe in demon activity in this day and age.  They also believe that people can invite demons into their lives through the use of things such as Ouija Boards.He is saying that HE differs from the JWs in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2012,07:06)David.How do you define miracles?I call that; God at work doing the drawing,and he does it in many mysterious ways.He uses all kinds of people, and even evil spirits,as his tool.You can call that a miracle if you like,I am not against that.A murderer that has been drawn by God to become a God fearing person,is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Notice how all these translations either say it is Satan or leave God in lower caps implying that it is not the true God.New International Version (©1984)The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.New Living Translation (©2007)Satan, w…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,19:01)So, t8,You get so, shall I say…full of drama in your little posts expressing your confusion, don't you. Who has allowed satan to rule in this world? When you answer that question, you will know who is God of this world.God did not make satan a ruler…He allowed it, but this will end. Learn the difference…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,18:32)Oh wow…that would make three individual dogs who are united as one.  What a concept!? How can more than one person be a unity if one member is in authority of the others? Maybe call yourselves the dog unity…go figure. Do you see how there can be more than one dog in a dog unity? And one dog (t8) is higher…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,17:32)Would that make us a Trinity Doghead?One dog three persons or three dogs, one nature?

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2012,09:45)Realize that like begets like means that both have the same nature and attributes.kathi. Like begetting like is not the same as being the same being.Different beings can have the same nature. e.g., we are both human beings. But we are not the same being. The truth is pretty simple isn't it.Although you have…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Terr, maybe I should get a dog avatar too and join the pack.

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2012,19:58)In other words, “I've got no idea”.StuartCorrect, you have no idea if there is a God or not.If you say no, then that is your belief system that you have faith in.

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    Here is the thing. Atheism is a religion. It is a belief that many have faith in.And Evolution is partially responsible for Ethnic Cleansing and ensuing wars.I am not sorry to burst that bubble for you charity.Science will not save your soul, no matter how much faith you put in it.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,11:40)Nope…he is considered a ruler, but not 'the god.'Okay, let me get this straight.You are saying that YHWH is the God of this age even though we are told not to love this age, and Satan is the ruler of this age.So that means that God has made Satan one of the rulers of God's world.Oh, this is getting worse…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 07 2012,20:53)Amen KathiBut they refuse to receive the truth because the Love of the Father is not in them! They give credence to other gods and at the same time try to say there is “Only One True God”. WJOh no, the Trinitarians have joined up with the Binitarians.The power of five.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    kathi, I can see you are still stubbornly holding to your view.Have you not read that the stone that strikes the statue is the Kingdom of God, and that it not only destroys all the kingdoms of the world, but it also the stone grows and covers the whole Earth. So is YHWH the god of both the world and the Kingdom of Heaven.Also, Satan is the god of…[Read more]

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 01 2012,23:59)Hi Stu,There is one thing that I have never quite understood concerning the theory of evolution.Do gene mutations occur only because of  selection pressure that would drive such a development. Or do gene mutations occur and then just hang around until there is some need for that change, and if no need ever…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,03:45)Regarding satan…please define 'world' for me. Wouldn't that mean all people? Isn't all people summed up in all Jews and Gentiles? The Bible tells us that God, not satan, is the God of both the Jews and the Gentiles.Kathi. Satan is the god of this world.He is the god of this age.He is the god of this eon.He…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,03:45)You claim that John 10 is quoting Psalm 82 and you are correct but Psalm 82 does not say that God is speaking to men anywhere in the verse you quoted as a proof that men are called theos or even elohim. I realize that some teach this but literally, it does not clearly teach this. Try again.Jesus was talking to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Jesus has a God and that God is my God.And all the Trinitarians said: “Same with us, BUT, Jesus is the one true God too”.And what does “yes, but” really mean?:D

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Because the one true God sent his son.1) One true God must be the Father2) The son must be Jesus Christ.Pretty simple I would have thought.What weird explanation can you come up with to try and hide this simple truth?It will be interesting at least to see what length you will go to here.“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true…[Read more]

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    Oh yeah you are asking if these things are miracles.Well that is a hard question because I think in some cases it is divine intervention and other times it is random because statistics don't lie either, or rarely do.So yes and no. Depends if it is divine intervention or not.God does intervene, so where that happens you can call that a miracle.God…[Read more]

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