Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2012,05:21)Mike………The word “With” can imply a Plan or thought, while the word “alongside” forces the text into a different meaning and you and T8 well know this IMO. You both distort the text which shows your biases to what is actually written,  My point is why do you guys seem to always add words to the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:34)What, the universe exists because you tap randomly on keys?You're not aping any story I've spun.StuartThen we must be speaking beyond your ability to understand. I will dumb things down for you. Actually might need to dumber or dumbest them down. I will let you choose.Dumb, dumber, dumbest.?

Ed J, it is likely that the PM box will not be transferable and links will definitely break because the URLs to topics will be different. That said, this current forum would remain live, but I would just remove the ability to post. So you would still have access to PMs.

Ed J, I can't change anyone's vote. But I will take a mental note of it when assessing which way the votes go.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2012,23:40)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 30 2012,20:19)t8? who's that?My name is magilla and I am typing this out without realising it. Just tapping the keys randomly and this post is the result.You have to at least give this credibility because it lines up with your view of the universe. If you are insulted by this post, then you have at…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2010,02:06)T8, Great posts, however I think you forgot some commas – When intelligence is not involved, what do you have left, Stu? Sorry Stu I couldn't resist, in fact you are intelligent, to a point. But you have become vain in your reasonings, contributing the glory of God's creation to pure chance. It surely…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,08:33)This thread has gone way off topic.  Do any of the atheists out there have an actual explanation to the points that t8 and Wm made in this thread?If the eternal monkeys will take one gagillion years (or whatever) to happen upon the minute amount of information stored in the 23rd psalm with random keystrokes,…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 09 2012,01:50)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2012,12:05)Science will not save your soul, no matter how much faith you put in it.Nor will belief in anything.If there is a soul to be saved, and it can be, then it will be.If not, we have no control over the outcome.TimBelief in the truth is the exception. Ignoring the truth in anything…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Dec. 08 2012,21:09)you Love your control. your More Dangerous to civilization than the men that didn't even Know when their town would end. let alone the world.And now for 1 Pet 4:1.”If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” Yes I realise the stance that the world will have and when this hate peaks, it will be back to…[Read more]

LU, what you do not realise is this.”This, then, is the judgment: The light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed. But anyone who lives by the truth comes to the light, so…[Read more]

LU, let's be clear about something.The reason you and KJ have the view that YHWH is the God of this wicked world is because if it was Satan as most already know, you both would then have to concede to the true meaning of the word 'theos' and thus it would threaten your whole case about Jesus being the Most High Theos.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,10:47)That is a HILARIOUS avatar, t8!  It brings back memories of Ting-a-ling.  (That was our Chinese Pug when I was young.  My parents figured that since she was a Chinese Pug, she should have a Chinese sounding name.   )I like the teeth the best, but they do look a little artificial.And I could adapt the name to &#0…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,03:15)t8,you said:Quote And he is the prototype son and are we not sons of God.He, Jesus, is eternal, we are not. Here lies the difference between being the only begotten/not created son who is God by nature and attributes and being the created son who is not God by nature and attributes.Correction.Being the…[Read more]

Gene also needs to add a paragraphs to some scriptures so they fall in line with his view. When I reword a text, but keep its meaning intact, he says I am wrong. When I give him the scripture, he says the scripture is correct, and then adds a paragraph so that it falls in line with his view.The short of it is that we can quote these scriptures and…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 07 2012,18:08)Well how do you know? If both God intervening, and God not intervening can look exactly the same, then how do you know, t8?Physically speaking you wouldn't. You might be spiritually aware enough to distinguish between the two. But usually we are recipients and often do not question everything in detail, but react…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,15:37)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2012,02:16)What I am saying is that if JW doctrine has you convinced that there are no gifts of the spirit and that demons do not work in man as we see in the New Testament, then you are forced to deny any instance of either.t8,Perhaps you missed it in David's long posts, but he has…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,15:37)t8,Perhaps you missed it in David's long posts, but he has repeatedly tried to tell you that the JWs DO believe in demon activity in this day and age.  They also believe that people can invite demons into their lives through the use of things such as Ouija Boards.He is saying that HE differs from the JWs in…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2012,07:06)David.How do you define miracles?I call that; God at work doing the drawing,and he does it in many mysterious ways.He uses all kinds of people, and even evil spirits,as his tool.You can call that a miracle if you like,I am not against that.A murderer that has been drawn by God to become a God fearing person,is…[Read more]

Notice how all these translations either say it is Satan or leave God in lower caps implying that it is not the true God.New International Version (©1984)The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.New Living Translation (©2007)Satan, w…[Read more]