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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 13 2012,05:19)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.Scripture says he is Lord.And you deny that he is Lord.What does scripture say about that.Something serious.Are you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 14 2012,03:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,17:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,09:22)Mike,A perfect example of God giving the words through Moses to Aaron showing that they are God's words and not Moses' own words.Read and learn.Oh, you mean like Jesus speaking, not of his own initiative, but ONLY what his God and our…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    LU, is Jesus the prototype son of God?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,19:16)God never gave up the world to satan, although satan would like you to think that.Okay, but he let Satan rule it anyway. Is that your stance?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Christendom is a kingdom. It is not the same as the Kingdom of God.Jesus said that if his kingdom was of this world, then he would have an army to fight for him.There are 2 pearls of wisdom here.1) That YHWH cannot be the God of this world if the Kingdom of God and his Christ is not of this world. Unless YHWH has multiple kingdoms.2) That…[Read more]

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    david.Is it not obvious that people can prophecy and also prophecy falsely.Trying to say that all is false makes no sense. Fakes usually copy real things.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 17 2012,19:39)t8,The point is, you and your two cohorts cannot confess that Yeshua is the Lord Jehovah. This is a confession of Christians all over the world!How is it that Christians all over the world see this and you three don't?MANY shall say Lord Lord did we not…. And he will say, “I never knew you”.We live in a dark…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    No matter how you argue this LU, this world is wicked and to say that YHWH is the God of this world is to say that he made the world wicked.God is not the Father of this world just the same that he is not the Father of lies.Satan is the god of this world. That is why God's (sole) Kingdom will eventually bring down all the kingdoms of this world.A…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 17 2012,21:18)Hi Charles,I understand that translators have popularly translated Paul as saying that satan is the god of this world but many have doubts and for good reason. We know that God has blinded the eyes of others but for it to be said of satan, we cannot find a reference to him specifically blinding the eyes of men…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 17 2012,19:18)Quote 1 Timothy 6:15-16 (English-NIV)15 which God will bring about in his own time, God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.. t8,Read this…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 13 2012,05:17)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.How can God make Jesus LORD?Exactly! One has to always exist to be given that name. Hint, hint…the mystery is unfolding…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 14 2012,16:50)Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 14 2012,00:21)Evidently so, Do you really believe we possess any significant portion of all the knowledge in the universe? Science takes scattered facts, to create theories but then forgets that they're only theories and begins building further “facts” (theories) on top of other “facts”…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2012,21:08)You don't seem to be familiar with the longstanding body of unambiguous evidence in support of black holes.Scientific theories make predictions which sometimes can't be tested until the technology has become available.  We knew we had to make a Large Hadron Collider to confirm the existence of the originally…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 16 2012,11:22)Quote (charity @ Dec. 14 2012,20:56):D AS long as Time an space proceed, emotional convictions, bigotry, an superior reasoning can be preserved.Exactly!StuartExactly. You guys are not exempt from this.

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2012,20:54)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,07:41)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a faith-based belief that I hold…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2012,16:47)Job 2:7King James Version (KJV)7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.A child accepts that Satan inflicted Job with sore boils even if he also knows that they are caused by viruses or bacteria infections.  Satan after all is the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.Scripture says he is Lord.And you deny that he is Lord.What does scripture say about that.Something serious.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.How can God make Jesus LORD?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,13:37)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,00:14)what went wrong in your book ???:):) :)

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