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    WJ, we worship God and the Lamb.You rightly point out that God is the Father.But the Lamb is not the Father, so he is not the God in Revelation. Revelation 22:3No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.Again you are mistaken WJ.Have another go by all means.

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    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 22 2013,21:00)Sorry I disagree, Israel can not be that woman.Old Testament (Genesis 37:9-10)9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”10 When he told his father as well as his brother…[Read more]

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    WJ, you haven't changed a bit from what I can see.Still as stubborn as ever IMO.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,21:24)So the question should be Is Mike (my son) the Exact Representation of Keith? The answer would be “No”. Though my Son is “equally, and exactly human”.Get it t8?If you are making a reference to the difference between identity and nature, then perhaps you are finally onto something. Have we not been…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,21:24)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2013,21:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,10:41)“And He is the radiance of His glory and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE”, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,Heb…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,11:30)T8 It would seem that it is your own tongue that denies that God has all power in heaven and in earth!And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, “ALL POWER” is given unto me “IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH' Math 28:19But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 2 Tim…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 22 2013,06:01)which was given ]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)EdJ, it stands to reason that before we existed, that God would have known us because he knows all things and all things come from him.Your view might be true if God was unable to think us before he created us or brought us forth.

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    Let's go back to the original question: Could monkeys type the 23rd psalm?Stu, being a monkey and all, could you do it?

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    When you dig up a grave, you should find a body, but missing the person/life force. (✓)People who have died and have been brought back, make reference to floating above their own body and seeing a tunnel and a light at the end.  (✓)Even without death, many are shown some of life's great mysteries by an eternal spirit that pervades all of…[Read more]

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    WJ, Jesus is like God, and Jesus is in bodily form.Does his body extend everywhere at all times?Whereas God is an eternal invisible Spirit.There is a big difference there.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,10:41)“And He is the radiance of His glory and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE”, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,Heb 1:3WJ, look up the word representation.Are you Keith or a representation of…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,10:30)Thanks!  :)So if Jesus is “Omnipresent” then that would mean that he is “equal” to the Father in that he would see all things, know all things, and have power over all things. That would mean that he is God like the Father!WJBut Jesus will return. So are you saying that when he returns, he will meet…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,13:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,14:13)So then Jesus would be “equal to the Father” in “Omnipresence'?The claim that God is “omnipresent” is silly, if you ask me.  For God to be truly omnipresent, He must be all places at all times.  And if He were, then everything and everyone would be God.For e…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2012,08:53)Apparently, there is no limit to the silliness people will speak in order to keep their flawed, man-made doctrines afloat. What irks me the most is how certain people will PRETEND to not understand a simple concept – because they know the understanding of that concept shows their doctrine to be flawed. (Ed,…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Jan. 21 2013,18:52)I've always loved cosmetology. 🙂New word to add to my vocab.Goes right after ontology. :;):

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    Quality not quantity then. :D

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Yes that is a good point Charles.He PROCEEDED FORTH.It doesn't actually mean that he has lived forever if that is what you are saying. It just means that all that Jesus is, came from God. He wasn't created in the sense that all created things are made by God through Jesus as stated in scripture.When we are born again, we are born of God and we are…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Jan. 21 2013,18:02)Well, why do demons have to do anything t8?  Anything that YOU say: “a demon did that” I can just as easily joke about it and say: “oh, I'm sure demons are lining up to move a marker around a board.”The point is that demons do things and you seem to deny that based on fraud which we all know happens. Your reason…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Jan. 21 2013,20:12)So far, I have found many black ravens.  I conclude that most likely all ravens are black. For me, it is logical to believe that this is true and reality until proven otherwise.  I, and James invite and encourage anyone to show just one non-black raven.  If it is false that all ravens are black, just show any no…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2013,20:29)David,Logical used as in logical reasoning is incorrect. Use the word reasonable instead. As the logic that some wondrous powers are frauds therefore all wondrous powers are frauds is flawed.Well said.

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