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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 23 2013,00:09)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,07:02)Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 21 2013,00:45)This guy must have fallen off of his cycle a few times and hit his head.Prove it.  :DI don't have to prove that he had fallen on his head.I was giving him the benefit of the doubt rather thanthinking he was born an idiot.TimHere is the other…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 6 months ago

    Quote None of you has yet to produce one.Is this true. Why is that? At least give an explanation as to why others are never mentioned as coming in the flesh. If you cannot, then at least look into your own heart and mind and ask why.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,19:44)T8, You are blinded to the scriptures that speak of Jesus as God over all. You and your buddies seem to have a common spirit that wants you to boldly say that Jesus is not the mighty God over all.Kathi 4:5Jesus is God over all.Ephesians 4:6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 23 2013,12:24)Jesus is the son of God who is over all and in all.That God works primarily through his son.I made a mistake here. I intended to say 'Jesus is the son of THE God who is over all and in all.That God works primarily through his son.'.I missed out the definite article in my sentence.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,19:44)T8, You are blinded to the scriptures that speak of Jesus as God over all. You and your buddies seem to have a common spirit that wants you to boldly say that Jesus is not the mighty God over all.We are taught that there is one true God the Father and HE sent HIS son. We are taught that there is one God the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,19:36)T8,Do you believe that Jesus is called the mighty God and that He is over all now?He is not over the Father. Apart from that, he certainly was made lord by God, so yes, he is over all, and even if he is not, I believe the overall plan is that all things will be made subject to Christ, so that he can redeem it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,12:40)And then there are verses like this:Romans 9:5 And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.I see. When you don't like a scripture, then quote another one that can be more easily…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,17:31)Mike,You lean on what you call 'common sense' continually. What you seem to lack is God's wisdom. There is a difference.What you fail to realise Kathi is that a lie often lacks in common sense. Take the Trinity for example. It is really a loony doctrine that when tested leaves this once defense. God is beyond…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2013,16:30)My answer:One in number.Good. So you can at least see that this word 'echad' can mean one in number. I will direct further questions to you regarding the meaning of 'echad' which is where your house of cards sits at the moment.

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    I pull arguments apart and inject humour into it as it is a good tool that highlights the point I am making. Because I believe we should hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught in the beginning, so that we can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.When I refute that might not be considered…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,12:20)If you understand that, then why can you not boldly declare Jesus as the God over all and the God of the church? hmmm?Here is the hmmm moment and the hmmm should be directed at you.Ephesians 4:6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.See that. Your view leads you to believe that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,12:20)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,05:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,15:08)Therefore, it's like Satan being called “THE elohim of Ekron” – since there are always qualifyers in the case of Jesus and Satan?  And the definite article being used for Jesus doesn't imply HE'S God Almighty anymore than the definite…[Read more]

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    Ed I was that donkey in the bible. I have come a long way don't you think?

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    Okay this topic is got to the flogging a dead horse stage.I will leave you guys to it.I am usually only available in good topics near you.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 23 2013,09:13)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,21:24)Of course I grew up as would naturally be expected. What happened with you Tim?Tim put away childish things when he became a man.1 Cor 13:11StuartAgain where is the proof.If this Forum is all we have to go on, then there is no proof. :laugh:

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    Tim: This guy must have fallen off of his cycle a few times and hit his head.T8: Prove it.Tim: Ahh what is the question?T8 (thinking): Makes a claim but again has no real clue about his claim.Just like God. Makes claims that God doesn't exist. But really has no clue.Your helping with my argument here Tim.Cheers and gotta go.Wonder if I should take…[Read more]

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    Finally a clear answer.Yes be yes and no be no.Amazing the lengths people go to in order to avoid answering simple questions. Being ashamed of their belief would explain it.:)

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    Give me a break. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,10:02)Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 21 2013,00:45)This guy must have fallen off of his cycle a few times and hit his head.Prove it.  :DLook at the post above.And you ask me what it is that I am asking.Go figure. :laugh:

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 23 2013,00:08)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,07:01)Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 21 2013,00:45)His claim that he has repeatedly shown that atheists can't prove atheism, is rediculous.Okay prove it to me then?I will await your silence or distraction.Prove what to you?TimAvoidance was his choice.In other words no answer.:)

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