Satan is the god of this age and the Father of Lies.However, a Satanic religion would paint him as different, because Satan or demons would be the author.1 Timothy 4:1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Although there are some good points above, how about we have a dedicated thread to the UB. This is about Adam and was he the first man.And people wanting to know about that, would not expect to find a thread about the UBCheers.

I guess you never saw the doco or didn't pick up the fact that most believe that he was into Alchemy to understand what things were made up of. The comment made was that many early Alchemists were really just early students of chemistry.Nevertheless, whatever the motivation, he didn't find much compared with the other disciplines he was involved…

Further we might call someone an angel if they are very good, or a devil if they are bad.This is not used to say that someone is a false angel or a false good person.See that?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2013,04:35)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 17 2013,15:57)God is a god, but so are others.He is the Most High God, but no other is the Most High God.He is the only true God. It means that he is the only one who is God over all.I doesn't mean that angels or God's council are false gods.T8,Quote Jesus said “one of you is a devil”. He was…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2013,20:04)T8,If ancient Greek were English then the same rule what you state would sound reasonable.  As it is I do not know enough.I have said this too many times to count, but in case you have never heard me say it, I will say it now.Jesus said “one of you is a devil”. He was referring to Judas Iscariot. What Jesus…[Read more]

God is a god, but so are others.He is the Most High God, but no other is the Most High God.He is the only true God. It means that he is the only one who is God over all.I doesn't mean that angels or God's council are false gods.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2013,03:57)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2013,18:11)It's not hard to understand.Without the article it is not identifying anyone, it is qualifying.Eve was THE Adam is wrong.Eve was adam is right.adam means man.God created adam, male and female.T8 and all,Adam was THE Adam is right.Adam was adam is right.In the beginning was the Word,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,23:39)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,16:37)The Word was theos, means that the Logos was divine.It doesn't mean that the Word was THE God. If it did, then it would exclude the Father as God.Just the same as Eve was adam, as opposed to Eve was THE Adam.The latter would mean that Eve was Adam to the exclusion of her…[Read more]

The Word was theos, means that the Logos was divine.It doesn't mean that the Word was THE God. If it did, then it would exclude the Father as God.Just the same as Eve was adam, as opposed to Eve was THE Adam.The latter would mean that Eve was Adam to the exclusion of her husband.

Good scripture.

The whole root and shoot argument that Kathi is making is a non-issue.If the head of the woman is the man and the head of the man is Christ and the head of Christ is God, then Christ is our head.And if God made all things through Jesus Christ, then that absolutely agrees with him being the root and the shoot.It is no proof that Jesus is YHWH.Back…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,11:16)Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,13:43)I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. ColterColter, if God has spoken that the soul that sins will die, then to save a soul would require death.You are…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,12:05)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16)Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,18:46)Do you see that the Word of the LORD came to Abraham in a VISION and also brought Abraham forth abroad and talked to Abraham? Also, notice that Abraham called the Word of the LORD, “LORD God?”You are completely missing the point of the New Testament Kathi. It is the revelation of the messiah and son of God.Men…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,13:10)Gosh, t8, all of those “theos/gods”!!Yes, I was an Arian myself, once (not too long ago).He is teaching the Greek usage of theos. It can be applied to the Most High, Angels, Men, Satan, idols, etc.You can't change Greek, you can only accept it and learn it. Rejecting Greek is not the answer.

Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just…[Read more]

Origen wrote this in the early 200s.Enjoy.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos he adds it som…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,00:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 14 2013,14:09) There are two mentioned as 'God' in John 1:1…a child can count that. How blind can anyone be to deny this???Hi LU,There is one God in John 1:1, not two.James 2.19 'You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder'True 2besee.It was the Word t…[Read more]