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Proclaimer replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 6 months ago
God is a god, but so are others.He is the Most High God, but no other is the Most High God.He is the only true God. It means that he is the only one who is God over all.I doesn't mean that angels or God's council are false gods.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2013,03:57)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2013,18:11)It's not hard to understand.Without the article it is not identifying anyone, it is qualifying.Eve was THE Adam is wrong.Eve was adam is right.adam means man.God created adam, male and female.T8 and all,Adam was THE Adam is right.Adam was adam is right.In the beginning was the Word,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,23:39)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,16:37)The Word was theos, means that the Logos was divine.It doesn't mean that the Word was THE God. If it did, then it would exclude the Father as God.Just the same as Eve was adam, as opposed to Eve was THE Adam.The latter would mean that Eve was Adam to the exclusion of her…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 6 months ago
The Word was theos, means that the Logos was divine.It doesn't mean that the Word was THE God. If it did, then it would exclude the Father as God.Just the same as Eve was adam, as opposed to Eve was THE Adam.The latter would mean that Eve was Adam to the exclusion of her husband.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 6 months ago
Good scripture.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
The whole root and shoot argument that Kathi is making is a non-issue.If the head of the woman is the man and the head of the man is Christ and the head of Christ is God, then Christ is our head.And if God made all things through Jesus Christ, then that absolutely agrees with him being the root and the shoot.It is no proof that Jesus is YHWH.Back…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,11:16)Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,13:43)I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. ColterColter, if God has spoken that the soul that sins will die, then to save a soul would require death.You are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,12:05)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16)Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,18:46)Do you see that the Word of the LORD came to Abraham in a VISION and also brought Abraham forth abroad and talked to Abraham? Also, notice that Abraham called the Word of the LORD, “LORD God?”You are completely missing the point of the New Testament Kathi. It is the revelation of the messiah and son of God.Men…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,13:10)Gosh, t8, all of those “theos/gods”!!Yes, I was an Arian myself, once (not too long ago).He is teaching the Greek usage of theos. It can be applied to the Most High, Angels, Men, Satan, idols, etc.You can't change Greek, you can only accept it and learn it. Rejecting Greek is not the answer.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.They all claim to be right and follow the right way. They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Origen wrote this in the early 200s.Enjoy.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos he adds it som…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,00:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 14 2013,14:09) There are two mentioned as 'God' in John 1:1…a child can count that. How blind can anyone be to deny this???Hi LU,There is one God in John 1:1, not two.James 2.19 'You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder'True 2besee.It was the Word t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
I have answered your last question at least twice. There is an absolute echad and a compound one.I could be cynical and say that I am one person. Yet my body is made up of millions of organisms, so I am a compound person. It is easy to stretch toward God being absolute one, or one in unity when using the imagination alone.But the real test is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
My first question. BTW, you too can ask must answer questions back.1) Of all the cults that claim to have the truth about Jesus, do you see that the Urantia as one of many thousands, and on the outset, by subscribing to it you are taking a one in a thousand/ten thousand/hundred thousand punt regarding what the truth is?A) YesB) NoPlease explain…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
It is still possible that even if a person claims that Jesus is the Christ, that they can still deceive many. Islam believes that Jesus is the Christ for example.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Questions to follow.But to answer what you asked.Jesus was also a cult figure, but he was also right.Another cult that disagrees with his words would make it wrong.Jesus also spoke and it happened. He demonstrated that he was from God.What of those who belong to other cults.In the end, we will put our trust in someone and something.If not Christ,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Okay Colter. So you disregard the scriptures as being altered beyond truth and put your trust instead in the 1924 Urantia revelation. Further, you believe as taught in the Urantia, the Trinity when it is actually very easy to prove that the Trinity is a false doctrine devised by man when compared with scripture (which you would disregard) and…[Read more]
Proclaimer started the topic Colter takes the seat in the forum 13 years, 6 months ago
I invite any member to discuss here and ask questions.The Hot Seat has the feature that a must answered question is just that. Usually, there is one open must answer question at a time. Unless the person on the Hot Seat is happy to have more than one. I will start not with a question, but a copy of a post I made in another topic. Questions can…[Read more]
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