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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 21 2013,03:20)Quote (abe @ Mar. 20 2013,10:42)Hi Mike,In the beginning was Cain.  And Cain was with THE adam, and Cain was adam.The only way Cain was Adam is past tense.Past? present? Future?abeIn the beginning was Cain.  And Cain was with THE adam, and Cain was    “a” adam.understand this ;; in the beginning was “” a per…[Read more]

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    I will give him one Mike. And now he can focus on answering you.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 20 2013,03:50)Mike………You have not given me ONE SCRIPTURE, that SAYS, Jesus preexisted his berth on this earthJesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”. And the Jews understood his words by replying something like, “are you older than Abraham”.Of course there…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 20 2013,17:27)Hi Mike,Cain was Adam, before Cain was born.What?

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2013,14:46)To me, these things just seem like simple, God-given common sense.  But I've noticed that those who attempt to force the words of scripture to support their own, man-made doctrines, often do so at the expense of common sense.Agreed. It still surprises me when people argue against common sense. This proves to…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 20 2013,12:16)The “Early Church Fathers” are completely inconsistent in what they wrote, IMO. And also why did only their writings survived all of the burnings? I would not trust them at all, and 'yes', I have read them.It is this misunderstanding of their words that has led to the Trinity. If you understand the usage of theos…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 20 2013,12:16)t8, I am not Arian any longer. So when you say that there is one God uncreated and then the Son (created)…. ?I believe as they did that the son was brought forth/begotten/came directly from God. Creation is thus defined as all that is made from God and through his son.Someone had to be first right? This is what…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2013,05:02)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,01:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:52)This 'article theology' argument falls flat on its back for two reasons:1. It is inconsistent since there are two other verses in John 1 alone that have the word 'God' in them but NO ARTICLE and they refer to God who is unseen.2. The article…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 20 2013,00:07)t8, I thought that you were an Arian? The “Early Church Fathers” were not Arians but were Trinitarians. If you read their writings, you will get confused. I know that I did. They were inconsistent in what they wrote.All that you need is in the scriptures — and then there are other writings which were considered…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2013,04:48)Instead of going to the trouble of just insulting me and exposing your weak character, why don't you challenge me with scripture? That would seem more productive, don't you think?Did. Do. Will do in the future.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2013,04:48)Does that truth threaten your understanding or something?Well let's see. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. Jesus is also the offspring of David. No Binity here Kathi.So that would be a no Kathi.

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 20 2013,00:19)Nothing unhealthy about my end of any such discussion.Your right. Nothing unhealthy about not discussing a subject you know nothing about. Also not healthy either. Just non-existent. :laugh:

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 20 2013,05:55)Bye then Colter.  Another tiny schism develops in the great cracked chamberpot of religious crackpottery.StuartThere are many religions including your Atheist belief system Stu. Your quote is appropriate for yourself as you are an avid follower of Atheism and her prophets. And Darwin is your messiah. Did you notice…[Read more]

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    The first click is a like, and the second undoes the like.

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    Stuart, if you are wrong, then that makes you deluded as well as a not so brilliant scientist too.I believe you are wrong. You cannot even have a healthy discussion about first cause or how the Big Bang got going from nothing. I bet these guys would love to talk about such things because they were truth seekers, (unlike yourself). Probably why you…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 12 2013,07:54)Oh and Wakeup, you asked if the Son was a half brother to us. Well, the Son was the only begotten Son and we are the adopted 'sons.' The Son was the only one to come 'out of' the Father as an offspring before creation. All other things did not come 'out of' the Father. All other things were called into being.…[Read more]

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    Further text that was emailed to me.=======================We now have a great amount of History behind us. We can take advantage of such a thing. The Bible prophecies point to an AntiChrist organization that we need to be aware of. Before anything, we need to make one very simple condition…”No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private…[Read more]

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    It is no doubt that in Romans 14:5, one man may esteemeth one day above another and so forth, but in no way does that mean that you could use this verse against the commandment of the Lord. The scripture is not made to oppose itself, but rather complement itself. Our Lord is not a God of confusion, but Satan is. (Corinthians 14:33) You can keep…[Read more]

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    I would like to discuss the Sabbath. I received an email sent from Heaven Net with a description about the Sabbath. I guess the main point that stood out to me that I have not considered was that the Sabbath and keeping a day holy were two different things. What do you say about this person opinion. I will post next.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:03)Seems useless to me. What is clicking on the fb icon supposed to do? I have a fb account and don't see any thing that it does. It doesn't take me to a HN fb page, is it supposed to?It shows up as a Like in your Facebook account. And this is accessible by your friends in Facebook. It's a way of sharing your…[Read more]

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    Stuart. These two men were not Christians that were forced at gun point so to speak. No, they spent much of their time learning about God. This shows true dedication. It was not a requirement for them to love God and be scientists too.Sorry Stu. These so-called deluded guys gave you much of the science you are using to dispute these guys.Obviously…[Read more]

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