Quote (Colter @ Mar. 21 2013,01:30)Hummm, maybe I will stick around for a season after all, I'm famillier with these mate's down here. I knew some of these people from a forum that started out as “Finding Believers” but then became “Moving Beyond Faith”.What should we talk about?What about Bigfoot?

13.8 billion years old. You are reading an old text book.

The vinedresser picks the ripe grapes from the vine.Leaves the green ones until they are ripe.If some never mature, then those are useless. Time to prune the vine, cut the branch, throw it into the fire. Let it make room for fruitful branches.Of course the Atheist grape doesn't believe in the vinedresser.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,23:52)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,22:23)how can Jesus be a man only, and also be the Holy Spirit. Please explain it simply.The Holy Spirit was IN HIM, speaking THROUGH Him. Was that simple enough? The two became as if one.Agreed. So when the Holy Spirit speaks through me what is happening. Am I the Spirit? Is this the point?

Okay since you know the words, I will hum the tune.A human and an ape unplugged.Peace through music.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,22:59)Jesus said that all sins will be forgiven, and that if you speak a word against the son of man it can be forgiven, but, if you speak a word against the Holy Spirit it will not be forgiven neither in this life or in the one to come. And in Genesis 1:1 it says that in the beginning God created the earth, and that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,11:16)Hmm. Please explain this.You say is a man only.And Jesus is the son of God.And the son of God is the Holy Spirit.Am I missing something here.Please explain this contradiction.Any chance of answering this simply and clearly in one post?Are those 3 lines not what you are saying?You say Jesus is a man only.And Jesus is…[Read more]

Wisdom was given birth.The Word was with God.God also has wisdom and logos as attributes or character traits within himself.

Quote How could the Holy Spirit be “a god”, and how could 'the spoken words of God' be.. “gods”??Okay I think this is the point.I would say that anyone that is born of God or begotten of him could only consist of attributes and nature that God possesses. What else is there that another could inherit?So of course we could argue all day that God has…[Read more]

Are you arguing that Jesus is the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is Wisdom?

Your posts are too long 2besee  and the point is lost. I don't even know what your point is. Think of this as a conversation. If I rattled of one page of information, the hearer may not even know what the point is. Remember, the point is in your mind, but for hearers, you need to explain it clearly.I much prefer each post to be taking about a…[Read more]

Yeah I understand that now. And I see what you mean. That proves to me further what a bad browser IE is. I will take the icons out now because IE still has major market share even though it is the worst browser on the market. This is why monopolies are bad. They force feed bad products to the market and can still retain major market share even…[Read more]

Yeah I understand that. But that behaviour has never happened to me. It is perplexing that 2 social icons would do that to anyone with IE9. No they cannot be disabled. They are hard coded in unless I remove that code.

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 22 2013,19:31)The question is – What *substance* / *nature* is the word? God, angel etcAlthough he existed in the form of God, he emptied himself and came in the flesh. He died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is raised up and at the right-hand of God in the glory that he had with him before the world began.So he was i…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 22 2013,19:31)T8 do you know what the Son was before he became flesh?The Word that was with God. Although it is possible that immediately before becoming flesh that he was the angel of the LORD. Some say he was others say no. I am just saying that is possible.

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 22 2013,19:23)Yes and a man and women are equal even if the man has more authority.But great scripture, as we are made in his image, male and female he created them in his image.God said let **us** (plural) make man in our image.Clearly the Father, Word and BreathJust as scripture teaches that the heavens and all that are in…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,14:34)How could the Holy Spirit be “a god”, and how could 'the spoken words of God' be.. “gods”??Mike, there is only one true God.God is the Father of lights and the Father of spirits.If God begats a son or sons, then we are born of him and are with him. If the Word that is in God is brought forth to be with him as the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,10:28)I have consistently said that Jesus is the Son of Yahweh-the Father.i.e., Jesus is the son of the other YHWH then.You said it.

Okay, I have taken this from another topic. It is Kathi's indirect admission to how John 1:1c should be read. It agrees with what I have said all along.Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. If the proper name is meant 'Adam' there is no…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. If the proper name is meant 'Adam' there is no 'ha' with it. That is what the article is saying. It is also saying that adam without the article refers to mankind in general. So 'the adam' can refer to…[Read more]