Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:21)I guess I'm missing the connection that says Jesus IS Jehovah.Yeah, I keep missing them too and still haven't seen one.I wonder if Kathi thinks why he was called Jesus. What is wrong with YHWH if that is his real name.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,14:55)Btw, t8…Jesus as the firstborn is not the prototype…the Father is the prototype. That came to me tonight during Hebrew class…you're welcome!Ke, he is the prototype son.How does that make him God? It doesn't.

Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,02:03)Quote (t8 @ April 01 2013,14:10)Colter. You belong to one cult within a supermarket of cults.How do you know you bought the genuine product?If it doesn't have made by YHWH on it, then it is a fake.The same way that believers in Jesus “knew.” ColterI am guessing they all say that. But your book is not what the…[Read more]

Oh, I forgot to ask you guys to feed the fish. They nearly starved to death. Just click the mouse and they will eat pixels. Thanks. Hope you can volunteer your time now and then.

I think they would be teaching the same things.But you have to give room for Babylon because that is the state of many things in this time.Come out of her MY people.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,16:03)So who is the other Root, t8?What is it that you are trying to prove.Then I might look at this if I find it worth my time.

All I am saying is the root and shoot or froot has no bearing on whether Jesus is God/YHWH or is God's son instead. A non-issue for that subject.

Colter, the Trinity is not a biblical doctrine, rather a pagan one that was assimilated into Roman Empire Christianity. (Holy Roman Empire.) Remember that Rome was a mixture of Christians and Pagans, with an Emperor (Contantine) who tried to appease both by creating a religion that would appease both all in the name of unity.It is interesting that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 03 2013,17:29)t8,Perhaps you ought to ask Jesus what He meant when He reveals Himself as the Root and Offspring of David and also revealed as the Root of Jesse and not rely on your own understanding. Jesus mentions this as one of the last things that is revealed about Himself in the Book of Revelations. Isaiah 11 doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2013,16:20)Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2013,12:21)I'm asking you (I mean Mike) to explain the verse –I've explained it to you so many times I've lost count, Ed.  I even dedicated an entire thread to this subject – just for you.  But you soon bailed on that thread, didn't you?Let's refresh:Jehovah clearly said that besides H…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ April 04 2013,06:13)Quote (Lightenup @ April 03 2013,13:24)jb2u,This thread is about finding a church that does not teach the trinity. I am challenging you as to why are you leaving the church and looking for another since I see the plurality in unity with the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.I know what the thread is about, seeing…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 03 2013,19:47)T8,Does this mean you will stop explaining to people where and why they are wrong?No. I was talking about the end. Of course I will rebuke those who teach lies. Misconceptions are many and we can change when we see the error of our way. But those that teach lies not only cause problems for themselves, but…[Read more]

The fruit of Kathi's doctrine.God died.

Jesus is worshipped as the son of God and the Lamb of God in the Bible.Not as God though. It says, God AND the Lamb in Revelation. Worthy is God AND the Lamb that was slain. Something like that.Kathi probably wants it to say that God was slain and is worshipped. But no, the Lamb of God was slain and is considered worthy.

Quote (david @ April 02 2013,18:30)Why not state that the universe always was, just in a different form, in a state of change. Things don't seem like they pop into existence. So, why not claim something already was, always was.He would then be admitting that his view is a belief, and he would be at odds with his prophets of Science who say that…[Read more]

Charity, what I want to hear is what you and Stu actually believe and why. And with the same vigor I get a hard time for believing in God, I would like to return the favour with your beliefs. The point being that I want to demonstrate that 1) alternatives to God are beliefs also, and 2) that God is the most logical choice even if you have no…[Read more]

It's real simple.SomeoneSomethingNothingcovers all bases.Stu knows this but is avoiding answering because he knows he will be exposed for the clueless mocker that he is.I respect people who defend what they believe. He prefers to ridicule others, but is not willing to put his own butt on the line.What is good for the goose…

Quote (david @ April 02 2013,18:46)Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2013,15:38)Quote (t8 @ April 02 2013,09:56)Joining a cult where everyone signs up to a set of doctrines and become one in agreement (unless they leave) is not the answer.The truth is not easy and like gold, it takes work to get it. We live in a world that is under the sway of the evil one…[Read more]

Kathi your root and shoot arguements honestly make me laugh.All I can see is you shooting yourself in the foot. Shoot and foot.

Kathi you are getting all confused over what the Logos was before it was with God. The early fathers taught much on this subject and basically said that the Word Power that was in God was brought forth as the first work.It is quite something else to say that the Word Power in God was a different mind to God, even though it was in him (his mind).I…[Read more]